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04 Nov 2005 09:36 | Dusty | Playstation 3 PS3Today.com | Link to this article 
The Official Playstation Magazine reported that Sony has decided not to use a central online gaming service like Xbox Live for the PS3. Instead the PS3 online service will be similar to what we have today on the PS2.
This will come as bad news for many who had hoped for a unified system similar to Microsoft’s Xbox Live, which are one of the main selling points for the new Xbox 360. This means that gamers still have to keep track of multiple online accounts, and that it will be up to each and every publisher to decide what kind of online features their games will have. Though this gives the publisher more freedom, and could be an advantage for some games, many of us have been hoping for a unified online service for the PS3 and it can be somewhat hard to understand Sony’s decision, especially after Nintendo finally also have shown interest for online gaming. However, how this strategy will work out for Sony will first be known when the console is out, and it could prove to be less of a problem than many of us think. Add Comment  1 -
That is a damn shame...Unregistered - bluesxman23 11.04.2005 09:43 Nothing was worse than trying to have a good online game then trying to play something on the PS2...hope Sony wises up and rethinks their strategy... 2 -
why notUnregistered - burgniel 11.04.2005 09:46 This just means we can have free online games again instead of a monthly subscription. I personally canceled my live service as I liked the PS2 online games better. This also allows for better servers being used when companys upgrade for thier games. I for one was not looking forward to a monthly subscription to play the few games I do online. Don't forget that only 10% of the people that have XBOXs have xbox live accounts. I think this leaves sony in a good position that they can always impliment the online community at any time through a download or even a better more transparent system through the harddrive with Linux installed. 3 -
Same hereScythe 11.04.2005 10:22 I didn't want to spend more money just to play a game twice a month for a monthly fee, I rather save that money for new games. This is the best way to do online gaming, I'm already paying for DSL why pay more to use it on a few games. 4 -
uh oh!Unregistered - kolopy 11.04.2005 10:24 PS3 live to rival XBOX live? dont think so, looks like MS has created such a good online service that SONY cant compete, i didnt think MS would rape SONY this early on in the war. one more reason to buy X360, superior online gaming.... hell yeah!! 5 -
Unregistered - Indica 11.04.2005 10:25 first of all i cant stand ps2 online games there is too much lag and i use cable so its not that... live is flawless... i had my xbox when it first come out and my live was free even when they started charging... i myself wouldnt mind playing flawless games online for a small fee plus they have the silver accounts now too.... that 10% is bull crap i know alot of people who have live just not highspeed and use others connections and vise versa.... you can make the best of this news all you want by saying its free and it wont lag but i for a fact know if they dont improve nothing between the ps2 and ps3 online then noting will change it will still suck 6 -
IndicaSativa420Unregistered - IndicaSativa420 11.04.2005 10:25 first of all i cant stand ps2 online games there is too much lag and i use cable so its not that... live is flawless... i had my xbox when it first come out and my live was free even when they started charging... i myself wouldnt mind playing flawless games online for a small fee plus they have the silver accounts now too.... that 10% is bull crap i know alot of people who have live just not highspeed and use others connections and vise versa.... you can make the best of this news all you want by saying its free and it wont lag but i for a fact know if they dont improve nothing between the ps2 and ps3 online then noting will change it will still suck 7 -
IndicaSativa420 Unregistered - IndicaSativa420 11.04.2005 10:29 #3 every 360 game is live so its not just 1 game every 2 months or anything like that i dont like ai gameplay really anymore 8 -
PAUL CERULA 11.04.2005 10:34 OHHH, MY GOSH, THIS IS INSANE. I did not see this one coming for the ps3. I can't believe they would let us know this now before the xbox 360 rush. I quess sony will have to use their 7 controllers to play games Sony -- "It's not good to play together" 9 -
Unregistered - kolopy 11.04.2005 10:36 anyone want to put bets on what SONY will drop next? two HDMI ports into one maybe, the CELL dropping to 2.4ghz, or the whole sh1tty console? 10 -
Unregistered - burgniel 11.04.2005 10:40 Spartan... it does not say "no online for Sony" it says something more like "Sony will not advertise and sell you stuff all the time online" I play socom online with sony and I have played online halo2 with my xbox live. I actually prefer the socom interface. Either way, if you dont like xbox live this is no big deal. If you do like xbox live this will kill the purchase of the PS3 for you. 11 -
#10 is an idiotUnregistered - Jonga 11.04.2005 10:53 Microsft does not advertise anything on xbox live. Do you even have live or are you just a fanboy try to put down live. They don't even try to sell you anything. There's some extra content that you have to pay for, but most of it is free. 12 -
Unregistered - kolopy 11.04.2005 10:53 socom with dial up and cheaters or many different top titles all with broadband no cheaters and organized matches for £3 a month, i know sony players are cheap bastards but come on. 13 -
- IndicaSativa420 - SpartanUnregistered - Yeh 11.04.2005 11:01 Yeh... this is dumb i play consoles with a bunch of friends and family at home... PC is where online rules + not so many monthly fees...i just think its ridicious to sit on ur a$ and play people u dont know for hours (halo junkys) the net has little to do with games except replay value to that person which is straight up retarded... (Guild Wars, Half-Life2(dm), Counter-Strike, Doom, Quake, etc...) 14 -
Anyone Miss This ?Unregistered - anyone 11.04.2005 11:03 Ultrafat giga net port on ps3? Where's this amazing Xbox360's port? Monthly fees are absolutly stupid either way you look at it... 60$ for a game + more $ to just use it online..... G3y 15 -
I know this is like super old but geezNewb 11.04.2005 11:07 Cell Processor PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz 1 VMX vector unit per core 512KB L2 cache 7 x SPE @3.2GHz 7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs 7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE * 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS 16 -
Ha HaUnregistered - Ronker Boy 11.04.2005 11:08 O dear, I feel for you...while I am playing on xbox live.....Roll over Fony and admit you have no fukin idea about live gaming. Go Billy Go.......yee haw.... MS 1 v Sony 0 17 -
#8xxxxxx 11.04.2005 11:11 Don't listen to #8. He is just a forum pu$y who is trying ruin my name. Dont listen to anything that wouldn't sound like me. 18 -
Hey SpartanFaggot 11.04.2005 11:12 I thought you weren't going to steal his name anymore. 19 -
Unregistered - SPARTAN OF 777 11.04.2005 11:13 What you guys don't realize is that porting sucks in performance, and if a good one comes out it will still cost money, if you had any notion of online play your going to have to look elsewhere in which console to buy. And that's what people will do because of this Sony move. That's indisputable. Effects of this move 1. People who wanted to buy the ps3 and liked online will start to consider getting both 2. People on the edge of which console, and who like online play will primarily lean to the 360 3. Those who are dedicated to sony will just be dissapointed 4. People who live for multiplayer and live will choose the 360 Now these are just general effects, their not absolute "duh". I still can't get over this. If you want online than porting will not suffice or satisfy your needs. Ps3 is out of the live business, start realizing that sony fans 20 -
xxxxxx 11.04.2005 11:13 Oh yeah! However, I didn't say I wouldn't use this name, I only said I would stop acting like him... 21 -
17 not me, 19 was mePAUL CERULA 11.04.2005 11:15 umm, 17 is being a moron again trying to be the real spartan, and why would a person named after a halo character support the ps3. but 19 was me, i forgot to sign in 22 -
20PAUL CERULA 11.04.2005 11:17 20 IS A FAKE SPARTAN, WANT TO BE 23 -
xxxxx 11.04.2005 11:19 I'm the real Spartan. Who dare either of you steal my name. Don't listen to them, I love PS3, not 360! 24 -
xxxxx 11.04.2005 11:22 I'm not named after a stupid halo character, Fake Spartan, I'm named after a star in another galaxy. God, how stupid can someone be? 25 -
Unregistered - Billy 11.04.2005 11:25 OH MY SWEET LORD!!! What the hell has Sony done? they just shot themselves in the foot. They had the advantage with a more powerful console but with crappy online services this is just useless. Its like having a FERARRI but NO PETROL. I couldn't decide between Sony and Xbox360 but now i know definitely its gonna be X360... 26 -
Unregistered - wow 11.04.2005 11:39 I have stuck with sony thick and thin from ps1, ps2, psp, and now....no online. This is clearly a bad move for sony. Now I really can't decide which one because I was hoping sony would have a better online. I'm sorry Sony but I'm gonna have to get the xbox 360 and see if I have enough money 6 months from now for the ps3. This is just sad but a big chunk of consumers with me want online play and crappy port service won't do it for me. Ps3 just lost (tens)thousands of customers... 27 -
Unregistered - Havoc 11.04.2005 11:52 Wow I read about this a few days back, but I didn't pay it no mind because it looked like it was just rumors. This is a shock to me, I even looked up the source, it's from a site called gamesfirst.com and they said they've reported this from Official Playstation Magazine that sony has decided not to use a centralized online plan. I know I am a sony fan boy but it is hard for me to believe this, I want to see quotes from the artical. I want to read the whole artical so I can know exactly why sony would choose this decision. But I started to think, It would be very nice to have a unified online stratagy but sony still can have one without it. Besides having to register for every game to play online, the online play can still be good, the things ps2 needed for online play was a headset that worked for all games and a harddrive for downloadable content. Then it will be up to the deveopers to incoporate the abilty to find friends, stats, and download content and things like that. If sony does decide to go by this stratagy, they should really think it over because although ps3 online will be so much better than ps2 online, it won't compete with xbox live with the single gamertag across all games. I still can't beilive sony would not go with the unified online plan, but just give me a headset to talk, and some downloadable content and I'm good. I just feel that if sony Made a strong centralized online sevice that the ps3 would compete with 360 in every category. Because with the ps2 and xbox, xbox fanboys could brag about the graphics in games, and xbox live but if ps3 will have a unified online service the xbox fanboys will have nothing to brag about with the 360. Man I'm not going to lie, I want sony to have the unified online service so I can say everthing about the ps3 is next gen. I actually can't wait untill november 22nd so Sony can give us info on thier online plan. 28 -
GS3Unregistered - GS3 11.04.2005 12:08 lol, ya'll all was screeming about blu ray, and the cell, so now the online service has changed and you all are crying. Yeah sony has dropped a few things and counting, but I mean deep down I still think it's going to be an awesome gaming machine after all thats really what it is, if I were a sony fan i'd worry if they start losing software support. I never bought into all that cell, and online and this and that. It was only to get your attention away from the 360, sony is really on the ropes they never thought that someone would just come that close to them in this gaming thing. They have blu ray, which is a good thing, they have blu tooth which is a good thing, they have self loading dvd mech, which is a good thing but, it's something about the 360 that has me. I even enjoy just being able to walk up to a kiosk and play. The 360 need to crank out some good games tho, Yo but back to this online thing. Yeah MS has that in the bag and sony tried to emmulate it but could'nt thats saying something. Have you ever heard the saying, you get what you pay for. Yeah there's a fee asscociated with live but its worth it all the way around. And to that one guy sayin he dont want to play with strangers, that's a wonderful thing to pick up and play live with or against anyone anywhere weather you know them or not. Dont make so many excuses, suck it up. If sony had went through with their online plans before they died you'd be elated to play with strangers. just admit it. I see what ms did right and wrong and I've seen what ms has done right and wrong. But that online thing as really pushed ms over the top and sony know's this and in the mean time they'll continue to drop sh!t. anyway by the time you get the ps3 and the cell not the version you were promised, the only thing the ps3 will have going for it is the games which what it was all about in the first place. 29 -
Sonfan bois wont understand.Unregistered - Daddy 11.04.2005 12:20 Sony fan boys are not intelligent enough to know how this will effect them in the long run. Not only will each publishing company have to deal with putting up with the cost of developing a game using the cell chip, but now they have to put more time into developing the online part too. This coupled with the fact that they have to use there own servers and use the over priced blue-ray technology is going to kill the consumer. But they don't have to worry about that, Fony fan boys will pay the price anyway. LOL! 30 -
SPARTAN 0F 777 HAS NO LIFEUnregistered - SPARTAN 0F 777 HAS NO LIFE 11.04.2005 12:26 SPARTAN OF 777. DUDE GET A FOCKING LIFE. HOLLY CRAP. WHAT DO YOU DO ALL DAY LONG. YOU ARE SUCH A FOCKING LOSER KID. DO YOU HAVE A GIRLFIREND OR A BOYFRIEND I SHOULD SAY. CAUSE YOU FREAKING NEED ONE. YOU HAVE NO LIFE 31 -
switchUnregistered - green lantern 11.04.2005 12:27 thats it...im done being a sony fanboy...i WAS gonna get a ps3 over an xbox360 but come on...a sh*tty online setup aint gonna make go n make me buy that system....i dont give a f*ck what has better graphics...online games are more fun because theyre not generic because ur playing REAL people not some stupid AI...i dont wanna have to pay for every f*ckin game i own just to play online..id rather pay a monthly fee like xbox live and play ANY GAME I WANT ONLINE!!...i cant wait for november 22nd so i could get my hands on a brand new xbox360....its a better looking console anyway and its got a better looking controller too....not no stupid boomerang and its doesnt rip off the spider man letters...F*CK SONY 32 -
R.I.P. PS3 Live..Unregistered - Akakage 11.04.2005 12:34 Wow this isn't a very good decision in my opinion. Last time I read I believe that xbox live was at about 20% of current users and climbing. The live servers maintained monitored and optimized to create the best online gaming experience possible on a console. With all the new enhancements to the service it will be even better on 360. $50.00 a year(not per month) is the cost of one game (not even one game now..darn next-gen price inflation). Cheating isn't nearly as rampant (any ever played Socom online?), Voice chat with every game, The games you can't play online have downloadable content (for the most part). Its a great service. With PS2 online...servers are almost always lagging, cheating is the norm, hardly any voice chat and only a handful of games support ps2online and even fewer of them are worth playing online. For both PS3 and X360 you will have to pay a fee for MMORPG's (unless msoft hooks us gamers up..since we are already paying) because that's how they have always been. PS2 online I believe I had it for a week before I sold my network adapter and play all my online games through xbox live exclusively. PS2's network was hot doo-doo..unfortunately it looks like PS3's is poised to be NEXT-GEN ultra powerful HOT DOO-DOO. Oh well there is always xbox live. I do want to play that DC comics MMORPG on PS3 though. As well as the Marvel MMORPG for x360. 33 -
Get a life PeopleUnregistered - Furious George 11.04.2005 12:39 Man you guys are f&*%king losers get a life already and stop worrying who has the better console, I don't give a rats a@@ who has the best console or online capabilities I just want the best games not some genric games I can sell back to the store. 34 -
finallySPARTAN DF 777 11.04.2005 12:42 (deleted by mod, this is your only warning) 35 -
Unregistered - Furious George 11.04.2005 12:43 I'm tired of this flamming and crude I'm not going to buy a new console. 36 -
Unregistered - Furious George 11.04.2005 12:47 You guy's aren't gamers, yeah Xbox is good and all but If I don't see any great games on either consoles I'm not going to bother buying one, it pisses me off when I have to listen to you morons spouting the same crap over and over again. 37 -
Unregistered - Furious George 11.04.2005 12:51 Green Latern good for you go buy the Xbox 360 no one gives a damn If I have to play the same Rehashed excuse for games, I'm not even seeing anything original what the hell is next gen graphics where are the next gen games I was promised. 38 -
PS3 PWNEDUnregistered - kolopy 11.04.2005 12:54 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!! 39 -
Unregistered - Furious George 11.04.2005 12:59 This generation of gaming showed me nothing new and oringinal in the last past years, soon online gaming is going to be as common as buying a used car and people will lose interest fast until something innovative comes up. 40 -
Unregistered - Furious George 11.04.2005 13:07 Just to let you guys know Xbox live will get more expensive then you bastards are going to start complaining about monthly charges, you can send hate comments at me all you want but I've seen this happen a million times. So long you depraved losers because I have no interest in putting up with this kind of crap anymore if I have to listen to you guys b#$%h and complain I'll have to take a gun to my head and pull the trigger. Adios Losers 41 -
DamnitUnregistered - Frank 11.04.2005 13:22 Sh!t Sony better re think thier decision about the Ps3 online...cause im really pissed right now. 42 -
Unregistered - LMFAO 11.04.2005 13:25 Where are all the Sony fan boys now? Where you at old school? Where you at Havoc? Where you at PS3player? Y'all aint got nothin' to say now. All y'alls talkin bout how good the PS3 will be, how good Sony is, how MS can't compete, and now you ain't got nothin to say. Its O.K though, just make sure you don't use you the same name you use here for your gamertag and no one will ever know you switched. LMFAO 43 -
Unregistered - Hulk 11.04.2005 13:25 Yeah the Xbox 360 and ps3 aren't doing anything new to be honest I was hoping for something original from the next gen consoles, after playing the xbox I got bored, and the only thing that sparked my interst a little was the ps2. If I don't see anything new next year and the years to come I'm going to end up selling both my consoles because let me tell you little sh&ts If I have to hear pointless screaming when I play Xbox live and no innovative games I'll sell both my new consoles in a heart beat. 44 -
Ref hulkGill 11.04.2005 13:32 Have you checked into Xbox live's gamerzones? Those should help fix the problem with that type of on-line player. Don't know if Sony has any similar plans. 45 -
Funny..Unregistered - Namehere 11.04.2005 13:33 I find myself laughing as i go from 360 sites to PS3 sites. It seems every time one of the systems have a disadvantage all the fans rabidly defend the systems fault. Such as the 360 not supporting Blu Ray or HD-DVD clearly a disadvantage, but xbots will die telling you there is no advantage to having extra disc space, which is an idiotic thing to say. And now that Sony has made a questionable decision sony fanboys sit here and claim "Xbox Live isn't all that good anyway" when everyone knows that Live is clearly the best all around online gaming service for consoles and it's stability definately out does many MMO games on PC. Like i said Just a thought... 46 -
Unregistered - Pipe Line 11.04.2005 13:34 I lost interest in the next gen consoles a long time ago, eye candy, explosions, online play don't interest me anymore I haven't seen anything new, this console war is getting old and stale. 47 -
Unregistered - Flash Back 11.04.2005 13:40 It seems to me everyone lost interest in the games in general and frankly it's funny to see you guys bicker about the disadvantages of a console, well I guess consoles are going to die like they did in the 80's. 48 -
Let the Hate RiseUnregistered - Darth Sidious 11.04.2005 13:56 That's right let the hate manifest winthin the fanboy community, soon people will lose interest in console gaming and every game devloper will end up flat a#* broke on the streets. Well if gaming does die out all of you guy's will have nothing to do when you lose interest in gaming and online play then game developers will have no jobs and all of you guy or gals will have nothing more to do with your lives with games. 49 -
Unregistered - JIN KAZAMA 11.04.2005 14:10 Well, I was wondering how they were going to handle online gameplay. I had the xbox, but I didnt get live because I didnt want to pay a monthly fee. I liked the fact that I could just pop in my marvel nemesis game and just play online with it, also, my NBA 2k5 and play online for free. I didnt find it that hard to set up an account. its really not a big deal to me, but it might be for some other ps3 fans. 50 -
?????Unregistered - Mancho Man 11.04.2005 14:10 Well if console gaming dies out it'll probably be around 2030 when graphics have reached their limit and online gaming is fun for awhile but monthly charges will increase and people will complain. If you guys think that gaming and xbox live will last forever, tell me do any of you guys like baseball, oh that's right it's boring and old I'll save my money for something usefull in the future. 51 -
Unregistered - Sight 11.04.2005 14:13 Good!!!Having the same system then it will probably means that we won´t have to pay to play on-line like Microsoft...And I really won´t spend my money just to play on-line!!!!I´d rather pay to buy another game.. 52 -
Punk Street 11.04.2005 14:22 I just want the best games people if I'm getting the same games without online play and their the same like the last generation then I'm going to be pretty pissed off because I was hoping new innovative games would come out. 53 -
Unregistered - PS3Player 11.04.2005 14:27 Ya'll 360 fans don't know what you want, i didn't want Sony to come up with an online strategy simmilar ti Xbox Live because then you would all be saying that Sony is copying, that's right they stayed original, and that means no monthly fee, but having to ste up an account for every online game is a bit frustating but i can dig that, so not a big deal for me, besides i only play 3 games online: Resident Evil Outbreak series, Soccom 3, and Mortal Kombat, i spend my time playing offline. By the way Soccom 3 is great and Soccom 4 will definitely be a KIller on the PS3, Sony will still beat Microsoft. 54 -
Unregistered - Mind Reader 11.04.2005 14:28 Online play is cool and all but without good games what's the point of having to pay out of my pocket for next generation games, I mean I have to work for peanuts and I really can't bother with paying monthly charges that will increase. 55 -
Unregistered - LMFAO 11.04.2005 14:31 I find it damn funny that Sony fanboys' complaint against Xbox Live is that it costs money. OMG!!! It is about $50.00 per year, which breaks down to roughly $4.17 per month. You people cannot really be that cheap. It is completely worth it to have a unified system and on-line community. 56 -
Unregistered - Mind Reader 11.04.2005 14:32 I want an online experience but damn I'm poor and I can't bother with having to pay money, Xbox live is good but it isn't good for me if the price will increase higher when 2008 comes around the corner. 57 -
Unregistered - Mind Reader 11.04.2005 14:35 I keep hearing xbox live but what about the games, $4.00 is peanuts but I don't mind spending that much online, but without good games what's the point of using it if I don't get the best of both worlds with the games. 58 -
Unregistered - LMFAO 11.04.2005 14:36 Hard to program for, losing developer support, ridiculous controller, expensive, and to top it all off, piss poor on-line play. WAY TO GO SONY!!! MS doesn't have to beat Sony in the console wars, apparently Sony has become their own worst enemy. 59 -
Unregistered - Mind Reader 11.04.2005 14:38 Just to set the record straight I like Xbox live but their were only 2 games that I used the service. 60 -
Unregistered - Fanboy Killer 11.04.2005 14:43 Okay L what if microsoft becomes the only console left without competition microsoft will increase the payments, games will suck ass, people will lose interest in the machine like what happened in the 80's with the old american consoles and no more video games. 61 -
Unregistered - Fanboy Killer 11.04.2005 14:47 Wow I'm starting to see a pattern the Xbox will be the only dominat console and it will suck just like windows within a few years with cheap parts and no innovative games to speak about just like the 80's with the atari, the 90's and the year 2000 with windows. 62 -
Unregistered - Fanboy Killer 11.04.2005 14:52 Think about it no more good video games without competition everything will be so damn boring no more anything, well it's nice knowing video games had such a short life span. 63 -
REF fanboy killerUnregistered - LMFAO 11.04.2005 14:54 I completely agree with you. I actually hope that Sony puts out a decent console to encourage competition and to keep all companies involved making high quality games and products. I just can't understand why Sony is constantly shooting themselves in the foot and allowing MS to get the better of them. There is no doubt that if either MS or Sony completely dominates the next-gen consoles and that the other fades away, that the ones that will suffer will be the gamers. 64 -
Unregistered - . 11.04.2005 15:07 This is good news for me why you ask, well free online play.the free online fro 360 is horible. so sony wins 65 -
LFMAOUnregistered - Fanboy Killer 11.04.2005 15:16 Here's something that is long but I took it from Nodieza from a link and Punk Street. "I believe that KK is playing everyone to be a fool, here's why: PS3 will not be expensive: Kaz Hirai and Chatani said it would be 'competitive'), and I believe them over KK ("PS2 will be under $900"). When he said PS3 would be expensive he was laughing. They also told investors and partners that it will be less than 40 000yen ($368). Why will RSX cost more than R500? If anything it should be cheaper: no eDRAM, fixed royalties, no radical architecture (as yet....). Also the R500 is made up of two dies. Cell $6billion dev costs (including fabs) are split 3 ways to IBM Toshiba and Sony, HAVABlogbillion for Sony, thats $20 per cell, fixed dev costs (assuming 100 million cells made and sold, used just on PS3, not including PS4, TVs, PSP2, mobile phones etc). XeCPU will cost a similar amount to make as cell, because die sizes are not hugely different, extra transistors is not the defining factor in manufacturing costs, die size is. Plus Sony is one, if not the most experienced company in 90nm production (pioneered this production method more than 6 years ago with PS2), an area which MS and ATI have almost no experience in (the same goes for nVidia, which is the reason why they are using Sony's 90nm production method for the RSX). Another thing is that only 7 of the PS3 Cell's 8 SPEs are activated, meaning that if one SPE is malfunctioning Sony won't have to discard the CPU but just deactivate the malfunctioning SPE, unlike MS who will have to discharge their CPUs if just one of the PPC cores are malfunctioning. A wifi card costs $40 now, to a consumer, how much for Sony, at manufacturing costs? Less than half? Bluetooth is 2.4GHz tech, the same as the 360's system and will most likely be the same price to manufacture as X360 solution. Sony do not have to pay Ericsson (the creators of Bluetooth) royalties, as Sony own Ericsson, MS will have to Logitech. Blu-Ray is the only real cost and will not be $100 more, all it is is a violet laser as well as a red laser, there will be no huge change in manufacturing costs. Stand alone players will be a $1000, just like DVD players were when PS2 came out, and how much was PS2 at launch ($300). Another important thing is that Sony isn't alone in the BD R&D, all the biggest hardware companies (minus Toshiba) are sharing the R&D cost and experience in gaining the most cost-efficient production method. When the PS3 hits the shelves the production cost of BD drives will be much less than today and the money lost on the PS3 drives will be compensated by the gain from selling BD movies and 1080p TVs (HD-DVD only run 720p resolution meaning that Sony wouldn't be able to sell its 1080p TVs to people with HD-DVD players). Another important medium which needs mentioning is the memory-stick, the PS3 will make this medium much more common which will make more people buy Sony's memory-stick products like video-cams, car phones, MP3 players and so on. I cannot see what all the doom and gloom stories are based upon. If someone can point out where I am wrong with logic rather than speculation, please do. Please do not use analysts ideas, they do not know squat, (PS2 and PSP=$500 at launch)." The controller and the console were only concept designs plus that guy carmack was talking about the old tools, the new tools arrived in october, and the unreal Engine and game Embryo 2.1 is going to make game development easier. Just to let you know an online service is good but without a majority of good games what's the point of having a console in the first place, if you don't read it you obviously don't know anything. 66 -
Unregistered - Fanboy Killer 11.04.2005 15:19 I want both consoles but gears of war is the only game I want, until I see innovative games from the 360 I'll buy it. 67 -
@ 64Unregistered - kolopy 11.04.2005 15:23 moron have you even played xbox live? SONY is failing miserably at the moment to capture interest from new buyers, they better pull their finger out and come up with something to rival the 360 experience or they are just gonna be the next gamecube. CELL/BLU-RAY/RSX and false promises aint gonna cut it this time. 1st = X360 2nd = REVO 3rd = PS3 68 -
Unregistered - Fanboy Killer 11.04.2005 15:25 If you guys ever heard of game pirates blu-rays will stop piracy for Sony which is a good thing because they're are an infinite amount of them on this planet, my brothers friend from the philippines buys burn game dvds. 69 -
@ 68Unregistered - kolopy 11.04.2005 15:33 nothing is 100% hack proof, there is always someone smarter than you so it may take a while but it will happen. 70 -
Unregistered - Fanboy Killer 11.04.2005 15:38 Sure Kolopy your a psychic, the console hasn't been out yet and your fanboy senses are kicking in already, well believe whatever you want because I buy the console for the games. Japanese People buy tons of games, why do you think they rarely bought the xbox in the first place, it isn't about patriotism or better graphics give them good games and they'll buy the console. Well your another ignorant fanboy trying to preach, I'm going to leave because I keep hearing that kind of crap from everyone and I seem to remeber that the gamecube had better graphics and it sold less than both consoles. 71 -
Who Cares?Unregistered - I hate Xbox/Playstation extremists 11.04.2005 15:42 Just because the PS3 doesn't have a unified service like Live doesn't mean it it won't have online. PCs don't have a unified service and they easily make up the vast majority of online gaming. The developers of SOCOM stated that a service like Live restricts thier freedom and that they prefered to make there own which has over a million regesterd users (that's half of all of xbox live's users). I have nothing agiast Xbox Live I think its a good idea I just think people should not be forced into a subscribtion to play online. While nothing is quite as satisfing as beating another person, they can be jerks alot of the time and with all this new hardware AI should be more realistic and may give online gaming a run for its money. I am disapointed that theres no service but it's not the end of the world and if it is to you, you can buy an Xbox 360 instead. 72 -
Unregistered - @67 11.04.2005 15:42 The 360 will have 2 versions one will be free the other eill be like xboxlive. The free will suck because M$ will want to make more $ so they will make the free one stupid so more people will get the good one. 73 -
xbox 360Unregistered - xbox 360 11.04.2005 15:42 y'all gotta remember, us hard core gamers are the one's thinking that sony's online service is a dis service, or that ms live is all that. Casual gamers won't give a sh!t about any of that all they'll know is that these are the latest consoles, cooler graphics and they can brag that they own one if not both. And the fact that it's PS3 (the name selling)will also increase sells for the system to non hard core gamers. So even if Ms got it poppin' it's very possible for sony to still out sell the 360 because of name recognition alone. I mean there are alot of variables that'll dictate sales for these systems. That's what happened last generation. 74 -
ATTENTION EVERYONE.Unregistered - PS3 IS INDEED DEAD LOL 11.04.2005 15:49 ATTENTION EVERYONE, MAY I HAVE EVERYONES ATTENTION PLEASE. Allow me to direct your attention to the above image of a toe tag and it's inscription. Let's hear it for the 360, xbox live lives. I could'nt have seen a better dipiction of the ps3 as that above. LOL, grill station indeed. Are'nt you tired of sonys lies yet? lol suckaz 75 -
Unregistered - Opium ship 11.04.2005 15:54 Smarter I've heard that line before but it doesn't seem to cut it anymore, the FBI have been searching for hackers and game pirates in the U.S. for years, they've been giving microsoft nothing but headaches. If you don't believe me and want to be surrounded by ignorant fanboys who know next to nothing here's a link from PC world about what happened in a pirating sting from some game pirates. http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,120446,00.asp 76 -
Unregistered - I hate Xbox/Playstation extremists 11.04.2005 15:56 the free version of Live is load crap if you ask me. Its just a tool to get people to buy the full verson and does not support online gaming. However the Full version of Xobx Live is gonna be awsome but its gonna be an annual $70 http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/sep05/09-08XBLPricingPR.mspx -if you don't belive me. 77 -
Unregistered - Wrath of Gamers 11.04.2005 15:59 No one wants the core system 5% of people who subscribe to game informer said that they want it, compared to 57% who want a Xbox 360 so microsoft is only going to lose money on unsold core consoles. 78 -
Unregistered - Wrath of Gamers 11.04.2005 16:05 I hate xbox/ps3 extremist how come everyone is acting dumb as a rock, don't people care about the games anymore not one person here has mentioned what games they want to purchase and it's pretty pathetic hearing this crap. 79 -
to comment 67Havoc 11.04.2005 16:08 How is Sony failing miserably, The only people who care about getting an xbox 360 is hardcore fans of the xbox. You must be out your mind, how can you put ps3 last and they are the only system that will be truly next-gen. So they might dispose of the idea of a unified online service but aint nothing change, you still going to get online play, good quality games that don't look like they were ported from this gen, and y'all xbox fan boys really need to come to reality if you think that the ps3 is going to be losing support from developers. If the ps2 murdered the compition with it's less powerful graphics, then you know ps3 will dominate with it's superior graphics and functions. The people at Sony are smart, they are going let m$ rush in with thier barely nextgen console, and when the ps3 comes out they're going to squash the competition. 80 -
#77Unregistered - Wrath of Gamers 11.04.2005 16:09 57% of people want the premium edition console. 81 -
Unregistered - Yardie 11.04.2005 16:30 35% said that they want nothing to do with the console and some xbox fans that subscribe to game informer are pretty pissed off on what they have to dish out to get the console if you guys don't believe me go to game stop and look at the magazine. 82 -
Fanboys Don't know SquatUnregistered - Yardie 11.04.2005 16:37 Just to let you fanboys I'm a frequent subscriber of the magazine I didn't send any online notices or anything but that's what it said in the october's issue, Wrath of Gamers is right and I read the whole article. 83 -
#82Unregistered - Yardie 11.04.2005 16:40 Just to let you fanboy's know. 84 -
Unregistered - Black Mist 11.04.2005 16:45 What the hell I haven't seen so much crap in my life, didn't microsoft promise graphics as good as Toy story, no they didn't, to tell you fanboys the truth making half-ass excuses doesn't do anything for me anymore. 85 -
to comment 82Havoc 11.04.2005 16:49 you said you read about this artical in a magazine called wrath of gamers? 86 -
Fanboy killer a fanboy himself?Unregistered - Jonga 11.04.2005 16:54 Hey Fanboy killer. How is Kolopy a fanboy. He just said that nothing is hackproof. I am sure that within a year there are going to be pirated games. 87 -
Unregistered - Yardie 11.04.2005 16:55 Gamer Informer. 88 -
Unregistered - Yardie 11.04.2005 16:55 Game Informer. 89 -
Unregistered - Fanboy Killer 11.04.2005 16:57 I didn't say he was a lying I meant to say is their any proff that blu-rays can be hacked. 90 -
Unregistered - Fanboy Killer 11.04.2005 16:59 I'm not a fanboy I'll buy both consoles until I see next gen games. 91 -
Not one of you Guys talk about the gamesUnregistered - Fanboy Killer 11.04.2005 17:04 I was going to buy a Dream Cast before when it first came out but I decided to save my money until good games came out, Jesus Christ you little pukes digust me all you guys do is act like bickety b#$^&*es and complain about the console. 92 -
Unregistered - Fanboy Killer 11.04.2005 17:16 Just to let you little pricks know the 360 better have a majority of good games because I only care about the games not the console. 93 -
PS3 will have excellent online Unregistered - Kurama 11.04.2005 17:17 A unified service is not the only way to go for online. We are facing two approaches here, each of them has it's own advantages and disadvantages. Ms's approach is easier and more convenient to use and has extra features like content and media downloading but it puts developers in limitations in designing their games and is not free of charge, and also isn't available in all countries (only 24 if i remember correctly). PS3's online approach will be like PC's online approach. Can anyone claim that online play on PC's is bad? PC's have some of the best online games and really own the online field and they don't have a centralized service like Xbox Live. Just relax people! PS3 will be number one and will also have an excellent online service. 94 -
93PAUL CERULA 11.04.2005 17:23 93 your thinking of independent porting which is generally crap and very very few ps3 people will bother with it. Face it if you want online you should get the xbox 360, at least the core, and get the ps3 if you want jap. games. The unified online is the only way to get good online with no hassle. Again very very few people are going to bother with porting the ps3 95 -
Havoc 11.04.2005 17:34 If you want a wide variety of games with good online play than get a ps3. 96 -
Spartan of 777Unregistered - Kurama 11.04.2005 17:36 It seems you have to get your facts straight. In the U.S only half of the internet users have broadband connection. Guess the nubmer in other countries. 80% of the people who bought Halo2 didn't play it on Live. Only a small percentage of Xbox owners(10%)are members of Live. Online play is a very good feature but it is not the first thing. I'd prefer to play deep and long single player games and really conncect to their storyline rather than pointlessly shoot other people in xbox live for a better score or reputation. Online is not the first priority. Don't try to exaggerate it's importance just because it is the only thing you have to brag about. 97 -
to comment 96Havoc 11.04.2005 17:39 "Don't try to exaggerate it's importance just because it is the only thing you have to brag about." That was well said. 98 -
#71 is right on the moneyUnregistered - NOT A BIG DEAL 11.04.2005 17:43 I totally agree with you man. I think that sony's online capabilities will be just as good as Microsoft. I still think that sony is the better console, and will always have the better games. 99 -
a-holesUnregistered - a-holes 11.04.2005 17:46 I 've played xbox live, hell i have xbox live. But I dislike many of the people that play on xbox live. Most of those kids are obnoxious, adn a-holes anyways. 100 -
#79Unregistered - ninja0327 11.04.2005 17:51 HOW is sony gonna squash M$? the only thimg that sony and the playstion have is that: they're well known all over the world. its like EA's MADDEN and 2K's football games. EA's football game is more likely to succed than 2K's becuase its popular, NOT because its good.sure sony is gonna strike with what they have, but so will M$.as far as i'am corcened MS has done a good job;they've hired japanese dev's, the makers of FF games and creators of GTA games. some ps2 games will now be xbox360 exclusive.resident evil 5 will be on xbox360 that shows how japanese developers are showing support. its up-to cosumers to make their choise NOT saying ps3 will be bad. 101 -
SPARTAN HAS NO LIFEUnregistered - SPARTAN HAS NO LIFE 11.04.2005 17:51 SPARTAN OF 777. MAN GET A FUKING LIFE. YOU ARE ON HERE 24/7. HOLLY SH!T KID. YOU'RE LIKE A BAD FONGUS THAT WON'T GO AWAY, WORST YET YOU'RE A FREAKING HEMRROID. YOU'RE A PATHETIC LOSER, AND I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU. YOU HAVE NO LIFE. 102 -
just keep lying to yourselves xbots...Unregistered - poopmouth 11.04.2005 17:53 The only reason that all these xbox fanboys are jumpin all over this subject is because they know it is the ONLY thing that Xbox has on Sony...So they just hold on to it as tight as they can and blow it out of proportion because they KNOW that xbox is inferior in every other relevant aspect. 103 -
#102Bill Gates 11.04.2005 18:07 Now, now #102 don't hate on my company. I know that you're right but you have to understand that we also have faceplates, t-shirts, and hats. This is how I am planing to control all of you...I mean make you all "Jump In". I will not stop until you are all a walking billboard for my company..I mean enjoy my product. BTW I will be releasing 22 more faceplates in Dec. so look out for those and try to ignore the superior PS3, although I don't know how you can. Damn Sony! they're so much better....DAMN YOU SONY! 104 -
SPARTAN OF 777Bill Gates 11.04.2005 18:12 You're not getting an xbox 360. I'll make sure of that I know you love Sony. You're a two face. Otherwise why would you be on here 24/7. I'm not selling you a 360, and none of the Sony fans are gonna want to play with you because you're a LOSER. You might as well buy a Yoyo and play with it. You're grounded! 105 -
to comment 100Havoc 11.04.2005 18:29 Ok I exaggerated with the word squash the compition but you know what I mean. Well anyways I could of sworn Microsoft was also well known all across the world too, maybe it's just me. Yea, m$ is getting some japanese dev support too, but Ms will never have as much as Sony of course. Both console will have thier share of exclusives, which will be a big factor in seperating one console from another. 106 -
Spartan of 777Unregistered - Kurama 11.04.2005 18:41 Another fact for you: the number of people who play FFXI online on ps2 is way more than the whole number of Live members. If you only focus on online,you'll miss many of the greatest games. All gamers know that storyline is one of the most important and fundamental aspects of a game. Online games never have a real storyline. Can you tell me what does it mean to play Silent Hill,Fatal Frame,Resident Evil in online mode??!! 107 -
Too badUnregistered - L-Ron 11.04.2005 18:58 big mistake sony, very big mistake. MS wins the next gen wars before they even begin. 108 -
L-ronHavoc 11.04.2005 19:05 L-ron get out of here with that weak comment. 109 -
103, 106PAUL CERULA 11.04.2005 19:09 Umm, 103 I'm pretty sure your thinking I'm two faced because there's a fake spartan with a very similar name to mine. You won't notice the difference in the names, probably a space or something. Also who ever keeps leaving messages in all caps is probably old school cause I haven't heard from him in a while. And of course he'll respond to this to make you believe otherwise. Listen up guys, this is important, not as important as ps3 losing the cell or something. But this does matter. And people will decide to get the xbox 360 instead of the ps3, not just because of this but it sways their decision. And you can't argue against that. 110 -
106 FFXIPAUL CERULA 11.04.2005 19:16 Also 106, FFXI is on the xbox 360, so even if your right which I would strongly say your wrong, it doesn't matter 111 -
Unregistered - booger 11.04.2005 19:17 spartan is a t1t but he is right, i for sure will be getting the 360 instead of PS3 now, 1 more customer for MS. 112 -
to havoc (105)Unregistered - ninja0327 11.04.2005 19:30 M$ is known over the world BUT not in the gaming department and they've just been in this business for 5 yrs which is why they have difficult to get settled. unlike sony which has been in this for 10 yrs and revolutionised the way we play games and thats why dev's are more likely to go with sony becuase its well established and has a good history in the business. peace 113 -
Spartan of 777Unregistered - PS2 Playa 11.04.2005 19:31 well peeps, im no fanboy but im really mad about no central online. 114 -
to comment 109Havoc 11.04.2005 19:41 Yes you are right, and people will decide to get a ps3 instead of the xbox 360 and thier decision would be based on little features like having extra game content on a disk, or when they see you are able to play a football game with up to seven people on one console, or when they're on the fence on which console to buy and they just happen to see the ps3 being displayed on two hd tv's. So yea I do agree it's features like xbox live that can sway a person's decision on which console to buy. 115 -
to comment 113Havoc 11.04.2005 20:09 Yea I was mad too when I first saw this artical mainly because M$ only has a few things to brag about and thier online service is one of them. But you have to think like this, it's not how good xbox live is, it's about the things sony has to do to make thier online stratagy better. The first and most important is a headset that works for all games, second downloadable content, and then a unified online service. No central online service, but you are still going to have fun with the ps3 online, for example madden online for the ps2 was great it's like a xbox live in that one game. 116 -
online serviceUnregistered - maccdaddy 11.04.2005 20:10 this isnt good for the ps3. i was actually a little concerned that sony could create an online service like microsofts. by the way, for those who think that xbox live is limited, microsoft is giving game developers a lot more freedom with how they want there game to turn out. For example game developers will be able to create an excellent online gaming experience and they will be able to get all kinds of downloadable content. Microsoft is even letting the developers use the green ring of light for their own games. All of you ps3 fans know that this is an upset for the ps3 considering how well the online sevice for the ps2 did( which wasnt good). We all know that the xbox live service is going to be great so dont hate on it. 117 -
Havoc 11.04.2005 20:26 We don't hate on xbox live, you just have to realize that just because there won't be a unified online plan for ps3, that it will be exactly like the ps2. 118 -
@ 117Unregistered - kolopy 11.04.2005 20:30 yeah sh1te just like ps2, no dlc coz no HDD as standard and who the f@ck is gonna play 7 people on on game get a grip, also who has two HDTV's in one room or even one house???? douche. 119 -
Here's my 2 centsUnregistered - Furious 11.04.2005 20:31 Remember the PS3 has not officially launched everything is subject to change... This announcement may not be legit, because I'm sure Sony understands online gaming is going to be a huge part of nextgen gaming. I'm just tired of hearing people say PS2 does not have online games. Don't get me wrong the XBox service is more robust and the XBox had more online enabled games, but the PS2 offered online options with most of their sports titles and Socom 1-3 had a huge online community with headset support. Honestly, I don't like the idea of having to pay for online services, but I do like downloadable game content. Also, having a universal friends list is nice, but not absolutely neccessary. If Sony pushes the developers to enable online gaming with their titles and offer downloadable content via the hard drive for free we have no real worries. I think the XB360 online strategy is nice, but not a system seller I can do all of the extra features via my PC. In conclusion I just played the 360 demo on a HD display and was impressed, but not floored by the visuals. I think both consoles have a bright future, but the PS3 is without a doubt nextgen and I highly doubt they completely ignore online play. Peace. 120 -
@ 119Unregistered - kolopy 11.04.2005 20:40 have you played PS3 in real-time yet? no i didnt think so, so how can you say that PS3 is real next-gen, short answer is you cant so dont say nothing at all. 121 -
#120 You must be a dumb ass...Unregistered - Furious 11.04.2005 20:56 #120 Read the post again I stated both system are impressive and I doubt PS3 would create a truely next-gen console and ignore online gaming. When you look at both systems architecture it's clear the PS3 was designed from the ground up for next-gen gaming. XBox took a slightly more conservative approach resulting in easier development, but the PS3 took a chance and developed a console with a new disk format 1080P support and a new revolutionary processor. The system was built for the future and online gaming is part of that future, don't sleep on the PS3. There's no need to debate you're out of your league go back to the XB360 forums scrub... 122 -
i read it and...................................Unregistered - kolopy 11.04.2005 21:32 "PS3 is without a doubt nextgen" yeah you did say it ballbag, PS3 has shown nothing real so how can you say that, it doesnt make sense, and as for 1080p 12% of people in the world own a HDTV 2% of that 12% own a HDTV capable of 1080p so your going to buy 2 are you? 1080p is just something they say to fool you into thinking it's the best, but realise only a handfull of games will use it whereas MS have ordered all games to use 720p and 4XAA. erm one more thing............................. OWNED! HOLA! 123 -
#122 Here's my final thoughsUnregistered - Furious 11.04.2005 22:32 You claim to read my post, but you do not fully understand the words... I would like to start by saying I will own an XB360 11/22, but the system is made with the next few years in mind. The PS3 is designed with the next 7-10 years in mind, let me explain. The 360 will be great for 3 years but the DVD format will start to negatively effect developers due to HD content eating up disk space, resulting in multiple games disk or an upgraded 360 with a built in HD-DVD or BluRay drive. If this occurs all the hardcore gamers like me will get the short end of the stick. Also, in the next 5 years the PS3 will be in full stride and more households will have HD televisions due to FCC regulations and analog broadcast removal, do your research. Once again for all the slow people on this board, both systems are powerful, but the 360 was designed to be first to market, the PS3 was designed for the future. Remember, the rabbit did not win the race, think about it... Peace, (no need to say owned:-0) 124 -
Online?Newb 11.04.2005 22:54 Why should i pay extra for online sevices? Live/or any console online is revo & PS3 don't pay at least... DUMB: to buy a game then play it online for a MONTHLY fee... PC's are based and still rule online gaming... plenty of games on PC to combat all of the next gen (w/ online at least)... and Jeez.. what is with everyone saying PlayStation will Fail........ (ASIAN HOLDS THE HIGHEST IN THE MARKET, so .. if anything will fail it'll be Xbox360 .. it never stood a chance in the asian confernce compared to Nintendo + Sony...) even if all americans' buy Xbox360 we'll still lose. 125 -
#123, you retardNewb 11.04.2005 22:56 PS3 has that ability BECAUSE SONY'S HIGH DEF TV'S PROVIDE 1080P you !d!ot 126 -
Unregistered - Big G 11.04.2005 23:15 All great points 122 and like you I will be getting both systems but 3 and 5 years is real nice, but I want the best sh*t now. 360 is gonna be the best now and when the day comes that ps3 is ruled the better syetem I won't care because I'll have it too. You guys are either poor(valid excuse) or your just plain fanboys not enjoy both systems. People say "You can't decide thats why you want both" or they say "their only loyal to sony", thats pure BS. I'm loyal to me, not any billion dollar companys. I want all the good games, not just some of them. I feel sorry for all of you that will only get to play half of all the good games out their where I'll be playing all. 127 -
Simple answerUnregistered - THEONENONLY 11.05.2005 00:10 The reason sony will not have a central service like xbox live is because they dont have the resorces to do it. Another win in the online department for Microsoft. Sony seems to belive that next gen gaming has nothing to do with online play but more to do with being able to watch a movies, play a game, have a video confrence, and voice chat with friends all at the same time by "Multitasking". 128 -
Cheap...Unregistered - THEONENONLY 11.05.2005 00:38 Some of you playstation guys are realy cheap. Your telling me you cant afford to pay $6 a month or $49.99 a year for Live. At least its a good service. If Sony would charge that for crapy PS Online then you guys could complain. Xbox Live has tones of games and Lag free. Its well worth the price if you like online gaming. 129 -
PAUL CERULA 11.05.2005 01:02 A few people are thinking about independently porting the ps3 which is always crap and very very few ps3 people will bother with it. Face it if you want online you should get the xbox 360, at least the core, and get the ps3 if you want jap. games with an marginal improvement in performance. The unified online is the only way to get good online with no hassle. Sony will definately lose customers because of this move and they know that. Again very very very few people are going to bother with porting the ps3 so quit thinking ps3 is an online machine. It is not.... 130 -
Xbox360 invade ?Unregistered - Stupid Xbotz 11.05.2005 01:34 Have fun getting "rewards system" on games w/ x360, get that rank #1 on halo and become famous to all the nerds!!!!!! how stupid, people with no lives earning rewards for playing video games 131 -
overrated...Unregistered - poopmouth 11.05.2005 01:43 First of all, online gaming is way fuking overrated. I play very few games online(and yes i have xboxlive as well as ps2). And seriously, most of the people that play online gaming enough for this subject to even matter, are losers. They have no friends so they go online and have "pretend" friends...dont get me wrong, online gaming can be fun, but it is way down the list of priorities for me in a gaming system...out. 132 -
Spartan of 777Havoc 11.05.2005 01:53 You are desperatly trying to persuade people to buy a 360, how ignorant are you to claim the ps3 is not an online console are you on drugs. Spartan this is not Sony's first console, people know what kind of games are going to be on the ps3, the large variety of games that sony is known for, including games that were ported to the xbox and not the ps2 because it wasn't graphically powerful enough. You can go ahead and get a 360, but when the ps3 comes out it's going to quickly feel out dated, but thats ok it will probably be an xbox 1080 coming out in fall 2007. 133 -
Both Consoles better deliverUnregistered - Fanboy Killer 11.05.2005 01:57 Well good luck to you guy's because if the games are the same from the last generation on both consoles I'm going to do the same thing as the guys nearly above sell my consoles, I don't want to have to put up with the same games. I truly want next gen games and if I don't get what I was promised then I'll have to take my business elsewhere, xbox live isn't doing anything for me I their were only a few games I used it for then I cancelled my account. This generation of gaming better be good because I don't want to play rehashed ideas, the only game devlopers I like are Alexander Seropian(xbox) the guy who made the marathon games and Dave Jeffe the guy who made god of war(ps2). I only see a few creative geniuses out there in the video game and design field and if I don't play or see anything truly next-gen then gaming for me is truly dead to me. 134 -
HahaUnregistered - Jesus' Nutsack 11.05.2005 02:20 You guys got pwned. 135 -
I'm planning to get both consolesUnregistered - War Devil 11.05.2005 02:47 Someone said Wardevil was going to end up on the 360, but I just checked the digi guys website and the ad for the game says that their getting talented game designers from the four corners of the earth. Then I hear it might be slated to the ps3, I don't know what's going on but if their getting talented game designers and the Xbox 360 is easy to design games on the console, why are they getting talented game deginers from around the world. http://www.digi-guys.com/ 136 -
Unregistered - War Devil 11.05.2005 02:55 It also says for studio news that their using Sony hardware and stuff which I don't understand, I was wondering what type of game would it be like and is it possible that they want to make multi-platform titles or make exclusives. 137 -
You Fanboys have no livesUnregistered - War Devil 11.05.2005 03:00 Just to let you guys know some of you guys have no lives, I don't need online play I have friends and family to enjoy all the experiences of my life, it seems to me some of you fanboys live in their mama's basement or have no friends. 138 -
Unregistered - War Devil 11.05.2005 03:47 I think both consoles will do fine but without an variety of games on a console, no amount of online play is going to interest me for long because I want more creativity and I play games for fun not to get into pointless flamming wars. 139 -
Get My Jagon Hard!!!Unregistered - derka derka 11.05.2005 05:56 LOL Crappy Online play for PS3 LOL !!!!!! 140 -
I think this sucks.Unregistered - Gh0stDrag0n 11.05.2005 08:46 Wow, some of you posting on here really are lame. Some think $4.00 a month is too much to pay for good online service, but then say they can hook up 2 1080p HDTVs to their PS3, apperantly they have not priced a 1080p HDTV. Personally I wanted Sony to have a killer online service, that would only force Microsoft to make Live better. All gamers win when there is stiff competition. I am not a Sony, Nintendo, or Microsoft fanboy, I am looking forword to all 3 new systems. All of the consoles will have great exclusive games, and I do not want to miss any of them. 141 -
Unregistered - THEONENONLY 11.05.2005 09:14 Saying online play is just for people with no friends LOL. I play onlive with friends and thats it. I never do machmaking in HAlo2. I play online coop with friends. It saves trouble of having to go over to ther house every time you want to play coop and you dont have to play splitscreen. Online is very important and im disapointed in Sonys decision. And saying xbox 360 wont have the variety of games, thats so bullshlt. 142 -
Vivicious 11.05.2005 09:14 Saying you don't like online gaming is fine, but it's still preferred by most gamers so acting if it isn't important is just sad. How you can not prefer it is beyond me, as it prolongs gameplay by 500% at least. 143 -
Unregistered - 40 is right 11.05.2005 09:17 Both systems will have good exclusive games my earlier post might look like im against PS3 but i am plaining on having both. I was just hopeing for PS3 to have a good online service. And I had to address some very twisted opinions but im done now. 144 -
Drip...Unregistered - Shabazz 11.05.2005 09:33 Drop. The first droplet of disappointment has fallen. How big and how loud will the next droplet be? 145 -
What's the big deal again?Nodieza 11.05.2005 09:34 I don't see the big problem with no unified service... Pc's never had it and I've been playing pc online since HL1 and it's been fine, I think everyone here is just spoiled, leave it up to the Devs to put what they want in their games, plus don't you know if ps3 has linux mods will come out for EVERYTHING and I doubt you'd be able to use them if it was under Sony's full supervision, look at Halo 2 on Xbox live.... can get banned for weeks for modding it. On Pc however do what you want and most pc devs support mods, and I believe that's how Ps3 will be, I mean some mods I've played were better than the original game. Their is a Perfect Dark mod coming out for HL2 that looks at least 10 times as much fun as the 360 version based on gameplay alone, plus they are setting out to remake the entire n64 game on source engine. Sweetness.... anyways, I don't see what the big deal is, xbox fans are just looking for a reason to shout.... nice to see your still here vivicious. 146 -
Who cares about online? I dont.Unregistered - who cares 11.05.2005 09:47 This sounds like shlt to me, why send a servey out for online play then decide not to bother doing anything? I'm not bothered anyway, I'd rather play games with friends in my home, online doesnt interest me, not even PC online interests me. Online does not sell a console, the games do, get it right dumb Xtards 147 -
Unregistered - Real Gamer 11.05.2005 11:11 I dont care about online either and wouldnt play enough to pay for it on 360. Oh and not to mention I just canceled my 360 preorder. I just wasnt impressed with what I have seen and am not excited about it anymore. Feels just like the 1.5 everyone alot of others have been calling it. Good news is I am 500 bucks richer again. Oh and speaking to the Gamecrazy manager it seems alot of 360 preorders are being canceled. He said their afraid this launch wont be as great as first expected. He had 2 canceled yesterday besides mine. Oh and for you 360 nuts that are going to be slamming me for canceling, I can always pick it up later and play the same games you will and depending on how long I wait I can do it for a cheaper price which it should be now seeing as how its not much better than the current xbox, except the controller is amazingly huge. 360, what a dissapointment. 148 -
It's not that...Retard 11.05.2005 11:22 It's not that Live is a bad setup at all, or that it's only 4$ (i think) a month... it's the fact i have to pay money; whether its small are large... i don't think games(networks) should have monthly subscriptions. SO this applies to both PC and Live i guess... Just my opinion! 149 -
I don't care tooUnregistered - Sony fan 11.05.2005 12:10 I just need the PS3 for MGS4,Tekken6,Killzone next,GTA next.... and i really don't care or think about anything else! 150 -
ha haUnregistered - leon 11.05.2005 12:44 more bad news from sony they reeeeeealy want you to buy the ps3 dont they ... lol wait till you sony fboys actually find out that the gfx WONT be like the metal gear trailer and killzone cgi. and actually be worse than the 360's the 360 is seriously gonna own ps3's @ss 151 -
WTFUnregistered - smarty pants 11.05.2005 12:45 The funny thing about this is if SOE said that it would be just like xbox live then the Sony fans would be cheering. Either you want it or you don't. Fence sitters come to mind. The Sony family is like a religious cult or something. Form your own opinion and don't cheer for evenything that Sony says. I for one feel as if we (Sony fans) were lied to. With the talks about matchmaking and etc from SOE now there are not going next gen with the services. Now the un-finished hardware looks to be the only thing next gen. To me "next gen" is to re-think and re-tool. Blue-Ray okay it will be somewhat useless to about 90% of Sony's users unless dev actually fill 50 gigs for a game. Buy more than likely they won't. gigabit for lan parties and streaming from a PC okay it has uses for for online it does not matter. Who has highspeed net connections for 1 gbs no one. 1080p wft a $4k TV and most games will not support it only 720p. No HDD for games saves. 1 gig mem stick duo is expensive about $100. Mem cards should be last gen in my opinion why worried about space for saves. I wanted a PS3 to play games, but looks like s=Sony is going a new route. Maybe they are using the PS3 to push the Cell and the Blue-Ray to other businesses for them. The casual gamer will be left out with the PS3. I think of all the grade school childern that love the PS2, and now they have stuff that they will never use. Man I hope this SOE announcement is fake. Unified online service is also better for the dev community. I bet I get beat down for talking about Sony(the virual god to some) but it's my opinion. I will wait to get one in the used console section at gamestop in a few years. 152 -
leonUnregistered - me 11.05.2005 12:49 just ignore #150 he is a mindless fanboy 153 -
#150Unregistered - sony fan 11.05.2005 12:54 Yeah,the of graphics of PS3 won't be like PDZ on Dreamcast 360! be sure about it! 154 -
149Unregistered - leon 11.05.2005 13:00 well aint you an idiot your not a gamer.no other game interests you than mgs,tekken , gta , killzone first, all metalgears are the same (but the story gets dafter with each release) 2nd why get another tekken tha gameplay mechanics havent change since the original tekken on ps1.(just improved on gfx) so you might aswell play tekken one. the first killzone was pants so why would anyone want to play the 2nd game?? and gta with each release of a gta it may aswell be the last game . they dont improve on the play the mechanics its just a get to point b from point a kinda game once youve played one youve played them all (imo) 155 -
to # 149Unregistered - PS player 11.05.2005 13:03 I want all those and Gran turismo next gen + Warhawk I-8 and whatever Naughty dog make should be good 156 -
#153Unregistered - leon 11.05.2005 13:05 still trying to defend you ps3??? your not convincing anyone dreamcast 360 ..thats funny last time i looked it was the ps3 that was loosing developers and hasnt shown ANY gameplay footage with each new day the news for ps3 keeps getting worse dont that tell you something??? 157 -
leon Unregistered - me 11.05.2005 13:19 please tell which developers did they loose, and by the way did 360 show gameplay footage 6-8 months away from luanch ? no you did not even know what it looked like intil may so stfu! 158 -
I know this is sad but.....Unregistered - xbum 11.05.2005 13:42 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA 159 -
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAUnregistered - HAHAHAHAHAHA 11.05.2005 13:46 Looks like you paygaytion is jus gettin worse ba da minutes. What a SHAME! 160 -
sparco 11.05.2005 13:55 I aint gonna lie to you people. Im an xbox fan. But i aint come on ere to hav a right laugh at u all. Obviously ive ordered a 360 and i was seriously thinkin bout gettin a ps3. But now it aint gonna have the online features like LIVE, im gonna hav to think even harder. Damn you sony. But you never know people, it still mite come back into the picture. Ders still half a year to a year b4 it comes out. Jus keep hoping it does. Or we can all send them hate mail. 161 -
Oh wellUnregistered - Cashmoney18 11.05.2005 14:16 Well i will be buying ps3 just bc its gonna be a little more powerfull but i will also buy 360 just bc i want all the online goodness they have, so if u want online buy 360 if u want your graphics a little tiny bit better then get ps3 even though ill get both most of all my time and money will be on the 360. 162 -
to #156 "leon"Unregistered - sony fan 11.05.2005 14:19 Hahaha! Man you're hilarious! I'm not trying to convince anyone! It's you xbots who come here and beg people to buy that microsoft made crap. Because this is your last chance. The first xflop was a commercial disaster and if this one fails too, Microsoft will pull out from the console market. On the other side, Sony has been in this market for 10 years now, have a huge loyal 90-100 million fanbase, ps1 and ps2 were amazingly successful and PS3 will be the most powerful and the most anticipated console whether you agree or disagree.It's success and domination is inevitable.Even Bill himself knows he'll be number two again. so, don't bother yourself buddy.I and other sony fans never give a f**k if their online service is unified or not. we will be able to play PS3 games online and that's what really matters. 163 -
its pretty damn simple...Unregistered - poopmouth 11.05.2005 14:26 If you want a gaming console that is next gen and superior in every aspect that matters, you get a PS3... if you want better online gaming(which is ALL they got goin for them) you get the Xbox 360....its pretty simple to me... 164 -
XBOX LIVE A JOKEUnregistered - who cares 11.05.2005 15:57 How is Xbox live better? is it velocity girl your all drooling over or is it cos of the ability to play checkers, hearts and other crap games thats already on your PC, or the other arcade games like bejeweled, WTF your all fools. So what if you are matched up to someone who is equal to you at playing games, it wont stop all the trash talking that goes on, on Xbox live with a headset, Xlive is sh*t, its no better than whatever Sony introduce, weather they have something similar to live or let the developers do their own stuff, so STFU and P*SS OFF. 165 -
funny again....Unregistered - Namehere 11.05.2005 16:27 Well i hear alot of talk about dreamcast 360...lol. I mean it is a funny comparison with all the similarities, but come on M$ has more developer support and a gigantic finicial backing (much more than sony, not to say sony's isn't huge). Xflop, xbox 1.5, or whatever else you call it, your just flamming, and by the dreamcast actually a good system with some awesome games some equal or greater than PS2(soul caliber) just terrible managment. M$ has much better leadership. 166 -
Nintendo has a good idea...somewhat on onlineUnregistered - PS2 Playa 11.05.2005 16:54 The revolution is said to have an online downloadable server with which you can download all the past nintendo titles. Maybe if Sony introduced this into their online strategy they could finally defeat ms and nintendo in the console wars.. ......maybe 167 -
Funny XbotsUnregistered - Sony fan 11.05.2005 17:54 what's funny is that xbots say: hd-dvd is "not needed" for games and will be used for movies! oh yeah, i see. but why are the developers complaining about the lack of space when the console isn't out yet? limitation even before the start! you know why they don't support 1080p? because 360 doesn't have the necessary power! PS3 supports 2 1080p signals. this shows that power difference is not as small as they claim. effectively i guess PS3 is atleast 60% stronger. on paper it is 100% stronger.Sony has changed it's approach after ps2. ps2 hardware was cheap and we see what happened. this time Sony is going for ultra powerful and expensive hardware while they have most of the marketshare.PS3 is designed for the future while xflop is designed to be cheap so MS can lower the price frequently and take the marketshare. I want the future technologies like blu-ray,cell and Sony is giving it to me. i'm not waiting for Bill Gates to tell me whether i "need" future tech or not! definitely i need and want those technologies! 168 -
Great MistakeUnregistered - Sony Fan 11.05.2005 18:15 Microsoft doesn't have 270 billion dollars in cash! this number is their MARKET VALUE! this is different. you must look at their ASSETS if you want to know how muck they can spend. their assets is approximately 60 billion dollars while Sony's assets is ~ 40 billion dollars. not a big difference! 169 -
blaaaaaaattttttttttttUnregistered - WESTSIDE 11.05.2005 18:24 LOL sony being designed for the future lol....well if that's any indication of your online serive lol then I dont think you have much of a future. Are you guys just blind or what? Sony is constantly dropping your features that was promised on the ps3. By the time you get it it's not going to be nothing that what it is a gaming maching that plays movies as well, xbox 360 plays games and movies as well, and it's basically out now meaning you can walk into a shop that has a kiosk and play the demo's. You guys are still holdin on to ken's lies and promises that were obviously a desperate attempt to gain the focus of the people and steal ms lime light. All of you sony features are dying including sony itself. Open your eyes!!!!!! 170 -
PS3 IS PURE GARBAGE, PIPE DREAMS AND LIESUnregistered - THE TRUTH 11.05.2005 18:44 The only flaw that I see with the 360 is it's choice of media for gaming. I think that they should have indeed opted for the hd dvd format for gaming. Other than that. Sony has nothing on the 360 period. The wireless controllers for the 360 are spot on (I want to say perfect). Now for those of you who don't think that xbox live is a huge deal has obviously never played. The 360 is a beast and even sony knows this. I hear talk of xbox 1.5 and all that kinda talk but if you think about it if that's the case then what is the ps3. It'll be a ps2.5 then. What makes the ps3 so much more greater. Nothin other than it's all hype and technically does'nt exist. What ever that crazy jap tells you you'd beleive, lol and you call us xbots. Yea well sony is dying, and xbox 360 is well like it says live. Just look at the pic above like the other guy said and you'll see and acurate dipiction of sony. Toe tagged and done for. Maggots!!! 171 -
#169Unregistered - Sony Fan 11.05.2005 18:50 what features did they drop? a service like xbox live never was on the official list of specs! in fact i'm happy now, because they didn't choose to copy from microsoft (MS is very at this one!) and i really don't care. most of sony fans don't care. we will play our games in online mode that's it. 172 -
SONY IS DEADUnregistered - CHIKAGO BULLZ.......F%CK THE REST. 11.05.2005 18:50 yeah sony is dead lol look at the toe tag. Look at thier financial state, yea they are rich but their sales are fallen (sorta like into a grave lol). I agree, the ps3 is not greater than the three sixty. I think its over hyped and wayyyy over priced. There are reports of it being 499. or possibley 599. ridiculous. When the 360 will do the same thing. They (sony) are banking on the blu ray to sell the system like dvd did for the ps2. Those little tricks won't work this time around. Sony has reached it's end. Let's hear it for the 360.. 173 -
S.uckers .Only N.ow Y.ou (falling for sony's tricks)Unregistered - POOTY TANG 11.05.2005 18:55 What features???? Do your reserch, psm a couple months ago and a whole feature, and a poll on what was dropped and how much stuff is going to be dropped in the future, now this. Your a ps fan you suppose to be on top of this. And the cell please it's not going to be the one you were reading about. Sony is trying to keep down cost so alot more things will be cut as well. Sony has no future, Losers!!!! 174 -
#170 F**K YOU ASSHOLEUnregistered - Sony Fan 11.05.2005 18:59 Go lick billy's balls you are all his clones you miserable vermins! MicroSUCKS IS GOING DOWN because everyday more and more people throw that JUNK windows out and use linux. and that junk xflop 1.5 isn't going to save you! 175 -
Unregistered - aurthor 11.05.2005 19:02 sony sucks, the ps3 will sell because people are mindless. you are stupid if you buy a ps3. 176 -
EnlightenmentPAUL CERULA 11.05.2005 19:07 What ALL of you must realize and accept is that no ps3 live is a very big loss for the ps3. Just because you don't care or were impartial about no online for the ps3 doesn't mean that others won't miss it. And yes Sony will be affected by this decision, in a way sony goes along with online defeat and believes that its an acceptable loss for them to take. SO GET OVER IT, IT IS A BIG LOSS FOR SONY, no matter how you feel. Porting on the ps3, just like porting with any console is absolute crap and very very few people will port. So....Ps3 is not an online machine for the general public, you few guys who know how to port can have a ball with it because the vast majority of people will do without. You can complain all you want but until you bring a valid argument to my statements do everyone a favor and shut up because you serve no purpose to the forum but to display how pathetic you are. 177 -
Unregistered - 360 Fanantic 11.05.2005 19:08 Yeah the truth hurt don't it. You know the ps3 is trash, and only a dim witted inbreed cornbread chicken sh!t like you would buy it. Sony is dead, like everyone on here is saying. Yes like it has already been stated look at the toe tag in your forum. And all of you act like sony zombies trying to rise up but you can't. xbox live lives. Dont be mad at us cause sony sucks. 178 -
loserUnregistered - 360fanatic 11.05.2005 19:15 Yeah the truth hurt don't it. You know the 360 is trash, and only a dim witted inbreed cornbread chicken sh!t like you would buy it. ms is dead, like everyone on here is saying. Yes like it has already been stated look at the toe tag in your forum. And all of you act like ms zombies trying to rise up but you can't. ps3 lives. Dont be mad at us cause ms sucks. 179 -
Music options???????Unregistered - ps2 1.5 11.05.2005 19:17 Hey, im not coming to trash the ps3 (sony has already done that). I just wanted to know if the ps3 would be able to rip cd's and have custom soundtracks for everygame like the 360. I really want to know this. 180 -
PS3 live is dead?Unregistered - SCEI surveyor 11.05.2005 19:18 PS3 live might be dead, but rather than copy trash from M$ they might be going one step ahead, did anyone actually think of that? why send a survey out? why waste time sending a survey out? doesn't make sense to me. I'll wait for official word from Sony themselves, not from the official Sony magazine, who seem to have become a childish bunch over the years. 181 -
We'll see idiot Xbots!!!Unregistered - sony fan 11.05.2005 19:20 firstly, go back to your forum. no one here listens to your nonsense. secondly, xflop 1.5 is inferior to PS3 in all aspects except online(which most of us don't care) and because of just this one suddenly PS3 will crash and burn. you are not mentally stable and your judgements are flawed. 182 -
CORRECTION...Unregistered - 360fanatic 11.05.2005 19:20 Unregistered - 360fanatic 11.05.2005 19:15 Yeah the truth hurt don't it. You know the 360 is trash, and only a dim witted inbreed cornbread chicken sh!t like you would buy it. ms is dead, like everyone on here is saying. Yes like it has already been stated look at the toe tag in your forum. And all of you act like ms zombies trying to rise up but you can't. ps3 lives. Dont be mad at us cause ps sucks. JUST TO REINERATE PS SUCKS 183 -
Unregistered - Gamer at Heart 11.05.2005 19:22 Word is that alot of preorder for the 360 are getting canceled like crazy cause people just arent excited or impressed about what MS 360 has to offer, Lets hope the PS3 is all it promises so we can get a true next generation console. 184 -
YEAH...PS3 IS TRASH.Unregistered - xbox is the best ever 11.05.2005 19:26 lol @xflop 1.5, I mean really did you come up with that one all by your self or did your mommy help you. Please, sony is the one thats flip floping, trying to stay alive. XBOX 360, beats ps3 to death (litereally). You say we're not in our right minds. You follow after krazy ken, now who's not in their right mind. you'll beleive any and everthing he says the one guy said it and it's so true. You guys are going to have such a sh#tty system with no real online play that's sad. you're sad. ps3 is sad. it's going to be expensive says ken ken, but why ohh umm blue ray, yea whatever sony's a pimp and guess what you are. yeah that's right, so keep on doing what you do, and i'll see you around. and to all my xbox fans....see on live 185 -
Pure BullshitUnregistered - true gamer 11.05.2005 19:30 I hate arguments over witch game console will be better. Being loyal to a company is the stupidest shlt i have ever heard of. Game systems exist to play games. Im getting all the next gen systems because I want all the great games while all you company loyal retards will only have some of them. 186 -
Sony fanUnregistered - Namehere 11.05.2005 19:32 Actually 360 does support 1080p 187 -
Sony Sucks lolUnregistered - perry mason jr. 11.05.2005 19:34 Who are you kidding you wont be buying all 3 systems 399.99 plus 599.99 plus 199.99 plus tax games and periphials. that's just retarted, when all you need is the 360 that's not fanboyism it's a fact. You nerd! 188 -
WOW THIS KID IS FUNNY =()Unregistered - LOL 11.05.2005 19:36 KEEP DREAMING BUDDY!!!!!GO TO EBGAMES.COM SOLD OUT ON 360! 189 -
#184- XFLOP 1.5Unregistered - sony fan 11.05.2005 19:42 one of the reasons i hate xbox live is that i have to meet assholes like you on it. your joy won't last too long. when PS3 comes, the nightmares of billy will start! try your best,perhaps this time you can sell a couple of millions more of that junk! if xbox live is that crucial, why only 2 million are members? only 10% of xbots?? MS has the headstart but in the long run we'll see who the winner is! 190 -
To 186Unregistered - Katie Price 11.05.2005 19:48 Wrong, 720p and 1080i are the MAX! it can do here is a link http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/612/612995p1.html It was on the official X360 site but like the last console it looks like they took the specs down early, god knows why they do that, maybe they lie about their specs? 191 -
Unregistered - Katie Price 11.05.2005 19:56 I forgot to mention, I got 2 X360 the other day, useless for games, but the curve on the top of the console supports my boobs just right 192 -
#190Unregistered - sony fan 11.05.2005 19:58 no he is right. XFLOP 1.5 can do 1080p but uncle billy felt they do not "need" it and told them not to count on it! LOL!!!! TO XBOTS: you claim sony will drop features. what are you a psyche? as far as i know MS promised you a standard HDD but dropped it. MS promised you HD-DVD but dropped it. MS promised you good games but all we see as launch titles are crap games like PDZ with ps2 graphics,kameo for 6 year olds,....,only PGR3 is good. 193 -
xbox is the worse everUnregistered - me 11.05.2005 20:05 first 360 does not support 1080p get your facts right. second there is nothing special about the 360 just updated graphics and xbox live. how does xbox 360 beat ps3 to death. last time i check ps3 is better in every aspect except for online which is not that important anyway. and ps3 is not the one that is dying it is the dreamcast 360. you guys are going to have such a shi*y system with last gens tech and grapics and can only brag about an online system in which only 2/10 of the fanbase have it. 194 -
To # 192Unregistered - Katie Price 11.05.2005 20:09 1080p is only capable by uplifting, oops sorry, thinking about my boobs again :) I mean up sampling the graphics. 195 -
haha.......Unregistered - JONJON 11.05.2005 20:13 I saw something yesterday on tv where they were showin screen shots of xbox 360 games and screenshots of regular xbox games and almost nobody could tell the difference, haha. just that that was funny. nice "next-gen" console you guys got there microsoft. 196 -
PS3 IS A PEICE OF SH!T FOR LOSERS!Unregistered - anikan 11.05.2005 22:14 How does xbox beat the ps3 to death? First off, the ps3 doesn't even exist. it's all smoke and mirrors/vapor ware. Secondly, your online is dead, and yes you are losing features left and right. You'll basically be paying for blue ray. And to the other creep, They are not using the full benifit of the xbox right off but how dare you say you don't see a difference. The 360 on an hd tv is phenomana, when and if ps3 ever launches it'll be the same thing, no launch came out the gate with good graphics and great games not one. MS did well to do all that its done thus far, you nerds know it that's why you are complaining and crying the way you are. And to katie, shut UP B!TCH with your flat chested @ss. HD is pretty much a standard with the 360 the core system is a joke no one will buy it ms knows this. PS3 1.5 is more like it. Built for the future lol, by the time blu ray comes out and 1080p their be another xbox more equiped for that til then the 360 will out perform the alledged ps3 anyway. Ken is living in a fantasy world of dream and deception. F_ck sony and F_ck you too. LONG LIVE, LIVE 197 -
360Unregistered - 360 11.05.2005 22:27 Whom ever it was that said the 360 will output at 1080 progressive scan is wrong, the highest for the 360 is 1080 interlaced. Sony is the one lying about 1080p. That sh!t doesnt even exist....(yet). Oh and let me say this. This whole thing isn't really about who is better Microsoft or Sony. They both have their perspective pros and cons. The thing is whom will give the consumer the most bang for their bucks. Whom is more practicle. Generally sony is more practicle. But it does'nt mean that they are better. Personally i'll choose the 360. The 360 is an awesome system but they need to stop porting games for the 360 and make somthing from the ground up to really show off it's true power. As far as the ps3 is concerend it's like it doesn't exist to me. We havent seen any in game footage yet. All those movies are not ingame. So im figuring when they do start to show real footage it'll not be better than the three sixty actually they'll be about the same. And to be honest you're going to have games from the 360 that's going to look awesome, and you have games from the ps3 that's going to look awesome. I think that the 360 is great, we've only been playing demos for the last week or so, and you gotta figure the final product will be way better graphically and everything. If someone could'nt tell the difference between the 360 and the xbox then something is wrong with that person. Especially on a hd tv, all 360 games are standard 720p. And with xbox live, and custom soundtrack and other 360 features the all around gaming experience is just going to be better for me. IT'S 360 ALL THE WAY. I'LL SEE ALL XBOX PLAYERS ON LIVE......IN A FEW WEEKS. 198 -
g@y station 3.........phuck you!!!Unregistered - katies @ b*tch! 11.05.2005 22:39 You @ss! ms never had hd dvd or blue ray, and the hd is standard, the core system is really not an issue they'll phase that right out. it's only for the launch. to make more money off of. Ms never promised hd dvd. so it's not dropped idiot. sony is the one dropping everything they have to anyway to so dumb phucks like you can afford it. And to that one cunt dude you dont like live so you wont have to talk to @sses like us, nah it's cause we dont respect @sses like you, and to that one B*tch grow some boobs then talk. phucking slut! 199 -
Havoc 11.05.2005 22:46 Wow you xbox fanboys really need to get a grip, all y'all do is claim that Sony are liars but that doesn't delete the fact that the ps3 will be more capable than the 360 in everyway. When I look at the xbox 360 I get overwelmed when I see all you xbox fanboi's trying to convince yourself that it can compete with the ps3. Take a real good look at most of y'all post, all you guys try to say is that the ps3 is loosing support, be serious the ps3 will have the same amount of games as the ps2. TO COMMENT 196 YEA THATS PROBABLY MICROSOFT'S STRATAGY, RELEASE A BARELY UPGRADED CONSOLE EVERY TWO AND A HALF YEARS, IF THEY RELEASE 3 MORE CONSOLE THEY MIGHT BE ON PAR WITH THE PS3. "no launch came out the gate with good graphics and great games not one" YEA THE XBOX 360 IS THE WORST TO DO IT. M$ made a BIG mistake by rushing thier system and not adding anything truly nextgen. See everything might seem all gravy now because you have no competition, It's like warm ups for basketball everybody is joking around having a good time, but when the bigger and better team shows up y'all are going to get that knot in your throat and it's going to be hard to swallow. 200 -
XBOX 360Unregistered - XBOX 360 11.05.2005 22:55 Yeah, I agree that MS rushed the 360, and cut a few corners, but I still don't see one system being better than the other. I want someone to please tell me how the ps3 will be better other than blue ray because I feel like that was the real advantage, now as far as specs nah....please don't give me those cause the 360 is a power house itself. I want to know why should someone not get the 360 as opposed to the ps3. And please only people with intelligent replies only. I'm being so serious I really want to know. 201 -
Unregistered - MAX B. 11.05.2005 22:58 ps3 is sh%t come on now 202 -
151Unregistered - sony is so so so so so so so g@y 11.05.2005 23:09 You are the only sony fan that actaully kept it real. Personally im a 360 fan but definitely respected your post. There are things about the 360 that I feel could have been done better. hd dvd media for gaming, and a standard 20gb hardrive. The rest of you sony freaks could learn from him. 203 -
?Unregistered - TOO MUCH MONEY 11.05.2005 23:14 Do any of you people think that the price of either the 360 or PS3 is too high? 360= 399.99 ps3= 499.99 (or higher) 204 -
MR NEW YORKUnregistered - new york gangster 11.05.2005 23:37 ps3 RULEZ X-BOTS SUCK ALSO I HEARD THAT X-BOTS SLEEP AROUND WITH THERE MOTHERS IS THAT TRUE SSTUPID GEEKS WOW .. I LOVE U SONY 205 -
To # 198Unregistered - Katie Price 11.05.2005 23:43 "and to that one B*tch grow some boobs then talk. phucking slut!" Do you even know who I am? do a Google search for Katie Price, before you open your mouth to me, I will smash your face in with my boobs you imbecile. I realy did get 2 X360's the other day and I use them to lift my boobs, you got a problem with that? The games are sh*t, Bill even said so himself, thats until the next gen of games come along, in about a year to 2 years time, by then most people will be playing MGS4 and other AAA titles. Current next gen X360 games look like this gen, Bill said its to do with most games being single threaded or something, I know I need more than a single thread to hold my boobs up, I use 2 X360's and a fishing net. I can send you a pic if you want? 206 -
Unregistered - kolopy 11.05.2005 23:55 Havoc show me some real-time footage of PS3 to rival the 360 otherwise STFU nOob! 207 -
I'M SUEING YOU BILL GATES!!!Unregistered - Katie Price 11.05.2005 23:58 Damn you Bill gates, you made one of my boobs melt with that goddamn video chip or whatever it is, inside one of these X360's, I'm going to sue you, you BAST@RD. 208 -
To # 206Unregistered - Katie Price 11.06.2005 00:13 Realtime footage here http://ps3.ign.com/articles/649/649116p1.html 209 -
TO COMMENT 200Havoc 11.06.2005 00:17 People may choose a ps3 over the xbox 360 because of the functions with in the cell processor that sony, IBM, and Toshiba co-developed. I'm sure you heard about the cell, and with it being implemented into the ps3 you will be able to perform multiple tasks at once, like watching videos, video chat, and surfing the web at the same time. You got seven controllers for the ps3 and trust me there will be games that can support seven controllers, it will be a game like xmen legends RPGS and sports titles. The ps3 has 6 usb ports, my computer is in well need of 6 usb's. To show off the ps3's power it can do dual hd tv's for extra game content on the side like the nintendo ds also it's for bragging rights like "hey 360 look what I can do". That just tells you the ps3 is ready for the future. Xbox live can't save the 360, Socom U.S NAVY SEALS, supports up to 32 players online, supports head set and many different game modes online and is a great online game. You are going to have all these features plus the large library of games sony is known for. 210 -
190Unregistered - Namehere 11.06.2005 00:24 Your right, i was wrong i misread the specS. 211 -
By the way...Unregistered - Namehere 11.06.2005 00:28 PS3 may support 1080p, but you can't even buy TV's that do yet so whats the point. 212 -
to comment 206Havoc 11.06.2005 00:29 "This trailer isn't a CG or something that we've rendered on a high-spec PC," said Kojima "This is the real thing on a PlayStation 3 development kit." Just take a real good look at this trailer, and make sure you watch the ending too. http://www.konami.jp/gs/kojima_pro/japanese/mgs4_04.html http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/adventure/metalgearsolid4/news.html?sid=6133820 213 -
Unregistered - ico 11.06.2005 00:33 B!tch, Google search deez nuts, you aint important you phucking slut. Trailer trash. 214 -
Get it rightUnregistered - theone 11.06.2005 00:35 The resolution of the xbox360 is up to the developers microsoft only requires at least 720p or 1080i. If deves want to make it higher its there choice. But no very few have HDtvs that support 1080p. I can garentee that next to no games will actually render at 1080p. There is just to small a market for devs to spend the time and money doing it. Regardless if the systems are powerfull enough to do it or not. Its funny how so many of you guys say online dosent matter but 1080p does. I cant wait for PS3 to lauch just to show you guys that its not gonna be a jump in graphics over the xbox360. The games will be similar. And i now that even though the games looks the same you Sony extremiest will still claim PS3 to be better. Xbox360 is a more rounded system than PS3 because of harware, software and services like xbox live which PS3 will not have. 215 -
Katie PriceUnregistered - fall back 11.06.2005 00:42 Katie Price, no google search needed I know just who you are. You are indeed sometime of whore or slut. You are @ss ugly. Nasty disease carrying b*tch. Jerry Springer type of trash that's good for nothing other than lying on you back. You cum slurping b_tch. Go and find your babies daddy you phucking N!gger. 216 -
MGS4Unregistered - theone 11.06.2005 00:42 Also the MGS4 trailer was realtime but still only a tech demo. IT was a sinamatic, not indicative in the least of what gameplay will be like. Gears of War will own you all and Gears of War is real gameplay at a quilty very close to the MGS4 trailer. Not some flashy tech demo with Sonys advertising of their new "cell" processor slapped all over it. 217 -
Unregistered - kolopy 11.06.2005 00:44 Havoc very nice but did you forget that this game wont launch till late 07, also 360 has GOW which is just as impressive dont you think? so how does PS3 have way more power... fact is it doesnt both systems will have amazing gfx so stop the b1tchin you bunch of manwhores. katie price aka jordan = horrible fat slag. 218 -
Unregistered - NOV 22, 2005!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 11.06.2005 00:47 im not disputing which is better or putting down the other all i know is that im getting my three sixty this month, and if the ps3 happen to have whatever so be it. im all for the 360. also if i may add. when you hear the term next gen. it simply means the next generation of that franchise, like the next xbox or the next ps3 etc. No it's not the next gen end all other consoles thats stupid. if that was the case the original xbox was the next gen then. 219 -
HAve fun b!tchingUnregistered - yourdaddy 11.06.2005 00:52 Because in 17 day Ill be enjoying Xbox360 greatness while you guys keep telling your selves that PS3 is gonna be some kind of god. Then when it finally gets here you will only come to see that it is an over hyped version of what the rest of us have been enjoying for at least months 6 months. 220 -
Unregistered - 720p 11.06.2005 00:56 so you mean to tell me that, if the ps3 dont launch until sometime in 2007. and the 360 launches this month that you honestly because of a brand you wont buy the 360. By 2007 the 360 would have and will be cranking out some of the best graphics ever seen on a console. And their fan base would be crazy. The developers would be so used to the 360 that these games will indeed have photorealstic graphics omg. at 720p or higher on a hd tv with the power of the 360 are you kiddin me. thats absolutely beautiful you guys are seriously under sonys spell or full of sh!t one. 221 -
PAUL CERULA 11.06.2005 01:14 YOU ALL MUST REALIZE THAT ps3 live is a very big loss for the ps3. Just because you don't care or were impartial about online for the ps3 doesn't mean that others won't miss it. And yes Sony will be affected by this decision, in a way sony goes along with online defeat and believes that its an acceptable loss for them to take. SO GET OVER IT, IT IS A BIG LOSS FOR SONY, no matter how you feel. Porting on the ps3, just like porting with any console is absolute crap and very very few people will port. So....Ps3 is not an online machine for the general public, you few guys who know how to port can have a ball with it because the vast majority of people will do without. You can complain all you want but until you bring a valid argument to my statements do everyone a favor and shut up because you serve no purpose to the forum but to display how pathetic you are. 222 -
CreditUnregistered - 360 FAN 11.06.2005 01:23 Man, the xbox 360 is up and running smooth. There are kiosks up and running all over this country. You can walk in and play the demo's all you want. You can actually see the console in the case. You can play with the controls and feel how great they are. You even know how great xbox live will be. Yet you don't give us any credit. The ps3 was announced in May, same as the 360. The 360 is being released in a few weeks. You don't know if the ps3 is coming out this spring, or spring 07. You still don't have any playable demo's to show us what the ps3 can do. You dont have nothing but kk's words but yet you put us down and fight so viciously to protect your vapor ware. And when the ps3 comes out possibly in 07'. It still wont beat the 360. It'll have to catch up to it. So im sayin can we please get credit where credit it due? 223 -
to comment 221Havoc 11.06.2005 01:49 Spartan what are you a machine, you post this same comment every five hours but you tweak it up every time to get it just right. Like in your previous comment you said the same thing but you said get the ps3 if you want jap games, I guess you realized MGS4 is a japanese game. It's like you just wrote an essay, you got an intro, three body paragraph, and a nice closing at the end, I might use that for a speech but you are missing a theses. You talking about bringing a valid argument you said "Just because you don't care or were impartial about online for the ps3 doesn't mean that others won't miss it" what are you talking about, there's still going to be a ps3 online. You tell me how is it a big lost for sony? "Porting on the ps3, just like porting with any console is absolute crap and very very few people will port" can I get your sources? "Ps3 is not an online machine for the general public" What, your talking like you are not human. Now y'all talk about xbox live as if it's your God. 224 -
to comment 222Havoc 11.06.2005 01:54 Trust me I give credit, but it's like for what y'all don't give sony credit. 225 -
Unregistered - theonenonly 11.06.2005 02:37 I will give Sony credit but they have to show the goods first and Im sure it will deserve its fair share, but to overlook Xbox360 is something I cannot do, it is showing the goods. I already give SOny credit for PS2, the most successful game console to date. I just hate the fact that people are shooting down the other console xbox360 and PS3 alike when both systems will be great and bring tones of next gen fun to us the consumers. Nov. 22, hear I come. 226 -
Xbots Out!Unregistered - Sony Fan 11.06.2005 04:11 get out of here you retards. you really are bill gates clones. you expect sony to show game footage 8 months before the console's release??? Xflop 1.5 is coming in less than 3 weeks and look at what we've got! most of the people who played it on kiosks say it's rubbish! yeah, MGS4 isn't gameplay but it's realtime. sony can show something like that 8 months before the release. we haven't seen something half that good on xflop until now. gears of war graphics is like a cartoon, i hate it. what do you MS anderoids mean by saying PS3 doesn't exist?? it seems you think sony is a novice company and is entering this market for the first time. sony is king and the winner of two last generations. you are really fooling yourselves! 227 -
The Next Gen DifferenceUnregistered - Cynical Gamer 11.06.2005 04:28 If this is true then of course the lack of a unified on line service is a loss for Sony. It won't make a difference if you're a full on Sony fanboy because in that case you'll take whatever Sony gives you no question. You don't have a choice in the matter. In the current generation of consoles my collection of Xbox games is the size of my Gamecube and PS2 collection combined. That's because I and I'm sure a large proportion of multi console gamers always buy multiformat games on the Xbox because of the improved graphics. Move forward to the next generation and based on everything I know about the Xbox 360 and the PS3 I don't believe their will be much of a difference in graphics between the two consoles. Certainly not as much as exists in the current generation. If this news turns out to be true I can see Live becoming the deciding factor in the next generation. The fact that multi console gamers choose to buy multiformat games on the Xbox this generation didn't really matter to Sony as they had such a large market share that they could afford to absorb it. If as everyone apart from the fanboys on this site expect Microsoft manage to make big inroads into Sony's market share dominance in the next generation and Live becomes the deciding factor for multi console gamers Sony can only blame itself. 228 -
Answer me!Unregistered - sony fan 11.06.2005 04:42 if xbox live is that crucial and a life and death issue,why only 10% of xbots are members of it? this doesn't look a big deal! Don't fool yourselves,Live is NOT a deciding factor. not everyone like to pay microsoft for it and play under their service. only you bill gates clones and MS anderoides like it. 229 -
BS,BS,BSUnregistered - sony fan 11.06.2005 05:11 you MS androids and Bill Gates clones talk in such a way that if someone unfamiliar with gaming hears you, he/she will think PS3 doesn't have online at all and online is only available on xflop! Sony will have a decent online and we will enjoy it. without the burden of meeting assholes like you! 230 -
MR NEW YORKUnregistered - new york gangster 11.06.2005 08:04 Mark Rein, VP of Epic wrote: MR: I'll start off by saying that I actually don't know much about what Nintendo's got going on... but from everything they said it's going to be a lot more powerful than what they had before. Sony and Microsoft both have awesome systems; we're just thrilled with all the stuff that's going on in that area. I think Sony showed off a huge amount of technical prowess and had just amazing demos. Clearly they are in very good shape. And the system erases one of the things that was a stumbling block for us in the past in that it's really easy to develop for. It's on par with what Microsoft's got now. http://biz.gamedaily.com/features.asp?article_id=9718§ion=interview&email= Just figured I'd rewind everything back a little bit and remind people that the PS3 isn't scaring some developers away. These guys are even talking about bringing Gears of War to the PS3 according to a conference recently. Not really sure what the Carmacks and the Newells of the world have a problem with, perhaps they need to chat with Mark Rein about it. PS3 4 LIFE SUCKAZ 231 -
Unregistered - theonenonly 11.06.2005 11:12 That interview with Mark Rein is a good indicator that any next gen game from Epic games will not be priced above $49.99. Thats good news 232 -
XBOX 360Unregistered - XBOX 360 11.06.2005 12:31 Yeah, I can say that in the end the 360 and ps3 would most likely be very similar. The thing about it all its that the 360 would be more for hardcore gamers, where as the ps3 would be for the more casual gamer. The 360 will have a sh!t load of pc titles as well as multiplatform titles, I do hope they have so nice exclusive titles. I had the ps2 the last time around so it was only natural for me to get the 360 this time. Tho I can afford, I dont see me buying both consoles. However, if microsoft starts get rocky with it's software support then obviously im going where ever the games are. But as it stands, the 360 is where it should be. And im very happy with my choice. Oh and the whole online thing, it's a great move by microsoft, yeah it's to make them money however online gaming is infact addictive and fun. So many people I know will have the ps3 so if I wanted I would always have access to it, but right now especially because of live myself and a whoollle gang of people, friends and family are going for the 360. People like to feel connected, at all times and live is going to infact be a instrument in that. Like I'd be able to play my daughters via live, from IL, while they are in texas. That's a blessing in it self. So you understand, the overall experience MS has to offer is infact something I would really enjoy having. As far as the ps3, Im not willing to wait til 2007 for it, it's not that important to me. 233 -
What's War DevilPunk Street 11.06.2005 12:35 I plan to buy all three consoles, I'm not loyal to any of the companies, xbox live is good and all but it really isn't a deciding factor anymore it's the games people whoever has the best games gets the large amount of sales. Honestly I don't care who's number one or best graphics the deciding factors are great voice acting, music, gameplay, plot, backgrounds, characters, and story if the games don't have the best of these then their not worth buying. I used to be a Nintendo fanboy, but I enjoyed playing the sega genesis in the 90's as well, I gave up being a fanboy along time ago, if you guys want one console it's your choice don't let anyone force you decide by yourselves. Oh what's War Devil about anyways is it a futuristic game because I heard the [Digi-Guys] are pretty good, it looks like their using Sony dev tools and dev kits so it might be slated to the ps3 or it could be multi-platform. 234 -
No one know when the ps3 is coming outPunk Street 11.06.2005 12:41 I don't want a new console right now, seems too early to get one and I don't think any of the consoles are for hardcore gamers until all of them come out, it's not like xbox live is bad I don't feel connected to it or obligated to buying a new console right now. 235 -
war devilUnregistered - maccdaddy 11.06.2005 12:44 Punk street, how do you know if the digi guys are using sony developing tools? Was there an article or something that you read? Im not trying to be mean im just asking because i heard that they didnt make up their mind yet on which console it was going to be for. 236 -
Punk Street 11.06.2005 12:51 Until Sony annonces when the console is coming out in the U.S. and their online plan considering their recent change no one will really know what their doing until next year or what date the console will be released worldwide. 237 -
Punk Street 11.06.2005 12:53 I checked the website, honestly I don't know which console it's coming out for yet. http://www.digi-guys.com/ 238 -
#232Unregistered - sony fan 11.06.2005 12:53 you said: "The thing about it all its that the 360 would be more for hardcore gamers, where as the ps3 would be for the more casual gamer." !!!!!!!!!!!LLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLL LLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 239 -
dont care about on line gameingUnregistered - ps3 fan 11.06.2005 12:54 All this stuff about not haveing a great online plan and on line gameing is dumb. the PS3 should not even have online gameing 240 -
Punk Street 11.06.2005 12:54 I don't know what their doing it said something about Sony on studio news. 241 -
Punk Street 11.06.2005 13:07 Everyone might want online play and not everyone will care for online play that's how it is for each and every individual, Xbox 360 the playstation isn't a console for Casual gamers if it were then it would had sold a lot less of consoles. 242 -
Punk Street 11.06.2005 13:08 I meant the ps2 wouldn have sold less consoles if it were for casual gamers. 243 -
Punk Street 11.06.2005 13:11 Alright a console is suppose to have variety that's what makes it a console for hardcore gamers action games, FPS, puzzle games, rpgs, racing, adventure, and so on makes it a console for hardcore gamers. 244 -
Unregistered - Stranger 11.06.2005 13:14 Which console is War Devil coming out for it's kinda confusing are they still deciding. 245 -
Unregistered - Stranger 11.06.2005 13:17 Punk Streets kinda right you need variety to sell a console it has to have games for every single person who likes a certain game. 246 -
What's going onUnregistered - Erich the Red 11.06.2005 13:22 Huh??? people are cancelling their pre-orders for the xbox 360 I thought people were making a frenzy about it, wonder what's going on why were the Xbox fanboys making a deal about it if people wanted it in the first place??? 247 -
Unregistered - Water Gate 11.06.2005 13:29 You xbox fanboys are big liers why would people cancel their pre-orders right now, not everybobdy on the planet is a fanboy, being a fanboy in numbers is rare these days I gave up being one and I only care about the games. 248 -
Launch TimesUnregistered - Johnny Xtreme 11.06.2005 13:51 Sony hasn't announced when the console is coming out in the U.S. or worldwide, Spring 2006 seems to be the launch date for the Japanese, if it's coming out next year here I could say that May, June, and July are appropriate times. 249 -
PAUL CERULA 11.06.2005 14:04 preorders enough guys about people cancelling their orders. Well People aren't cancelling their preorders it's just sony fanboys making it seem that way. And its' the same way around, xbox fans post that they are going to get the 360 and drop the ps3 250 -
Epic RocksUnregistered - Epic 11.06.2005 14:08 So both consoles will sell well, it seems Epic is making games for both consoles it's a pretty good interview, so the unreal engine 3.0 will make game development for Sony easier thats good to hear. 251 -
Unregistered - Wise Gamer 11.06.2005 14:10 Enough already Spartan who really cares about being a fanboy just buy your console already. 252 -
Unregistered - Wasp 11.06.2005 14:13 It's kinda obvious Xbox fanboys would drop the console, who cares. 253 -
Unregistered - Monkey Punch 11.06.2005 14:16 It's not fanboys spartan it's the consumers. 254 -
Unregistered - Opium ship 11.06.2005 14:21 Alright people not everyone is going to want either console I go to the console with the variety of games, if people are going to come here don't be a dumbass and make it seem like everyone on the planet wants the same console. 255 -
Unregistered - Gang War 11.06.2005 14:24 Spartan it's kinda obvious hardcore xbox fanboys want the 360, to be honest kid no one cares about you, everyone who's either a Sony or Xbox fanboy says that your annoying or they hate your guts. 256 -
Wait and SeePunk Street 11.06.2005 14:37 Well this site is becoming a nest for extremist fanboys so I'm wating until next year to see what's going to happen because I'm tired of the flamming, well I'll only come back next year when theirs news about the games. -Comment Later until January or February 2006- 257 -
the only thing!Unregistered - sony fan 11.06.2005 14:41 i applaud MS for only one thing, and it's their simultaneous worldwide launch. man that's excellent! it really pains me that we sony fans must wait months after japanese ps3 release! but it does worth it! that wonderful piece of ultra cutting edge technology does worth it! HEY SONY, I WANT THE PS3! GIVE IT TO ME FASTER! FASTER! FASTER! 258 -
Unregistered - answer to previous comment 11.06.2005 14:51 Too bad sony only cares about being....NUMER 1, NUMER 1....customers come second. MS being an american industry understands that when you tend to customers needs they give back their allegance 259 -
Unregistered - Yardie 11.06.2005 15:10 Just to let you guys know it isn't about being number one anymore it's who has the best games that's the deciding factor, to be brutally honest they just want your money they don't care, the price for the 360 in Japan is lower than the U.S. I'm really not interested in the whole online thing until I see games that I like to use it for next year, I'm going to do the same thing as Punk Street and wait until next year until all the consoles come out. I quit being a fanboy years ago I just want all three consoles so I can enjoy different types of games, it's really up to you guys to buy what you want not some idiot fanboy who knows nothing about game development. 260 -
Unregistered - Mr.T 11.06.2005 15:16 It's not about allegiance they just want your money, these companies don't want to be your friends, the only people who care about the people are the game developers, when has microsoft, sony, or Nintendo cared about people in any way. 261 -
Unregistered - The Con 11.06.2005 15:25 If Microsoft cared about the American people they would allow new computer companies to become well known and allow fair competition instead of buying them out before they even have a chance to put something new on the mareket. 262 -
Unregistered - The Con 11.06.2005 15:30 Well you can't be the top computer company forever it happend to Apple and eventually some unknown computer company will take the torch and do something innovative then the cycle will go on and on. 263 -
ps3vs.xbox360maccdaddy 11.06.2005 15:43 why is it that all of you ps3 fans were so happy when you heard of ps3 plans to have online gaming but now you all act like its nothing. I remember all of you saying that ps3 online would be a competitor to xbox live. Now its nothing to you because of this news. Im not trying to be rude but take the blows as they come and stop denying them. Online gaming is very important to a lot of people. Yes it is true that xbox live is only 10 percent of xbox buyers but im pretty sure that they plan on increasing that number by giving free xbox live silver with xbox 360. Also, why are you all complaining about 50 sollars a year for xbox live gold when it costs 25-40 doolars a month for online service. Im pretty sure that the ps3 will do fine without online service like xbox live but it wouldve been a very nice addition to have a unified service. 264 -
maccdaddyUnregistered - sony fan 11.06.2005 17:05 online is very good but personally i didn't care from the beginning that it's unified or not.we'll play those online games whether unified or not. anyway, i agree that Live could be the only xbox advantage. but it's outrageous that xbots come here and say ps3 will crash and burn because of this. ps3 has the upper hand in all other aspects. right now, we know that blu-ray has won the format war. most of hd movies will be on blu-ray and if you have a ps3, you won't need to buy a 1000$ BD-player. the cell cpu will give us the taste of super computer like performance. imagine some exclusive ps3 games harnessing the power of the cell cpu. the 1080p TVs will become mainstream and affordable in 2007-2008. the futute belongs to PS3. 265 -
Irony!Unregistered - theonenonly 11.06.2005 17:19 I find it very ironic that Sony claimes in there advertising that the "Cell" processor is the key to winning the console war when they themselves have proven that the hardware dosnt sell the system in the last gen with the PS2. Ps2 being underpowered compared to the xbox and even Game Cube , but out selling both of them by 3 times. Cell is not the key to winning the console war and as much as some of you hate it and deny it this online thing will hurt Sony, not bluntly and suddenly but over time it will be a hemerage in the PS3's side. Online Play will grow in the next gen, more and more people are getting broadband service. Even Nintendo sees a great future in online gameing. It will take an even balance of hardware, software, and services to win and Microsoft is currently ahead in that department IMO. They have more than enough hardware to crankout aimaising games, their are alot of great games lined up for the platform, and their taking the already great xbox live and making it better. Sony is realying to heavily on the "cell", and they are almost abandoning the sevice part of the puzzle by not offering an online service competable with xbox live. Sony has hardware and software but that only 2/3 of the puzzle. Xbox360 has 3/3 of the puzzle. Xbox360 has a lagitament shot at becoming the #1 console. All of this is my opinion of the upcoming battle. I dont mean to force it on any one im just simply clarifying my reason for favoring xbox360. Pick it apart as you wish but no one besides Microsoft and Sony can change the way I feel. 266 -
bloody foolsUnregistered - Ringo 11.06.2005 17:23 Does ity say that PS3 WILL NOT have online NO it's going 2 have online just not like 360 bloody 360 n00bs get a life stop flamen n f off 267 -
xbox 360Unregistered - xbox 360 11.06.2005 17:25 Man i've been doing alot of thinking, there are pros and cons to bother systems. The main blow to the 360 is dvd instead of hd dvd. My 360 is paid for and yea I like it alot and cant wait. I say as long as both systems keep the games pumpin out, gamers would be in for some serious treats. 268 -
360Unregistered - 360 11.06.2005 17:26 I meant to both systems.... 269 -
I want new gameplayUnregistered - Anubis Zero 11.06.2005 17:41 Who cares if it's unified or not your just getting different online capabilities and besides I'm more concerned about the games on both consoles that will have nothing to do with the online service. If the developers focus too much on online capabilities, then the single player suffers, balancing how the games will be like is the deciding factor, yeah I'm a little disappointed but I care more about how the games will be like when playing them. Even if the games have beefed up graphics if the gameplay has no creativity or vision then the games blow chunks, what's the point of buying a new console if the game developers don't make the effort to make next gen gameplay. 270 -
Time.......Unregistered - you gotta give it 11.06.2005 17:47 joe you gotta give the systems time hell they aint even on store shelves yet and already ya'll expect them to turn water to wine. 271 -
Unregistered - Anubis Zero 11.06.2005 17:52 I think both consoles will appeal to everyone who isn't a fanboy, but without new gameplay mechanics then it's worthless to be buying the games, it's kinda like this each console has their strengths and weaknesses. The plot, characters, backgrounds, story, gameplay, music, controls are very important if the game developers don't put more effort into the game itself instead of making shinny new graphics then the game suffers. I remeber this game called Bug for the Saturn it was one of the worst games that I've played, I know Sega is cool and all but still the gamplay, plot and everything else was awful. 272 -
#265Unregistered - sony fan 11.06.2005 17:53 i don't think so pal. Live will affect sales but not that much. current members are 2 million. even if they are tripled it's only 6 million. sony will sell atleast 65-70 million PS3s. it's effect will be minimal. plus,don't forget that Microsoft is not a popular company in other countries. they always want to monopolize everything. they monopolized online play with xbox live. i don't like it. and i don't say 360 will fail,no no. it'll do much much better than the first one but don't expect it to be the number one because you'll be disappointed badly :) 273 -
Unregistered - Anubis Zero 11.06.2005 17:54 I'll buy both consoles but still creativity and good gameplay are important factors. 274 -
sony fanmaccdaddy 11.06.2005 18:03 How exactly do we all know that blueray is the future of dvd formats for the upcoming years? Also i have seen the gears of war trailer and i have to say that it is just as good as the mgs4 trailer that i gave seen. Other games like killzone look great but are not real in game material. I know for a fact that the ps3 will murder xbox 360 and revolution in sells but even though it will that doesnt mean that it is better. By the way how do you know that it will be better besides specs that i really dont think any of us know what they mean? Games will determine the greatness of the system. I agree that ps3 will not be dramatically hurt from this decision about online. One more thing, none of us have seen close to the true power of the xbox 360. None of the games are even multi threaded and they still look like they belong in the next gen. I have no doubt that the ps3 will look great when its true power is shown either but i really dont think that it will be a big graphical change between the two systems. I respect your opinion and i hope you can respect mine. 275 -
maccdaddyUnregistered - sony fan 11.06.2005 18:23 ahhhhhhh, at last! a reasonable xbox fan! ofcourse i respect your opinion. neither of two systems will fail. i never hope they do. i don't like microsoft but i know that because of their pressure,sony is going for this awesome hardware this time. ps2 hardware was cheap and without competition ps3 could be cheap too. i prefer PS3,you prefer 360. freedom to choose is nice! 276 -
TUESDAY NOVEMBER 22, 2005Unregistered - TRU GAMER..... 11.06.2005 18:36 I agree, about the freedom to choose. Infact both systems are going to be powerhouses. I also don't want either system to fail. The competition is good and will only result in the evolution of gaming all around. I am a 360 Fanatic, but even with that said, I'd love to play a ps3 any day. The 360 will be out this month and since i'm hot for a new system why wait til 2007. Anyway I hope everyone get the system that'll make them happy. And to all the 360 fans, I'll see you on live..Peace 277 -
WHICH ONE???Unregistered - WHICH ONE???? 11.06.2005 18:44 CALL OF DUTY 2 OR KILL ZONE 3???????? 278 -
both of them!Unregistered - sony fan 11.06.2005 18:50 don't start a new flam war please! get them both and enjoy your life because it's too short to spend it like that! 279 -
Unregistered - 360/ps3 11.06.2005 19:01 Hey thats causes me to thing, since when did we as gamers become so divided. I respect both systems. I love video games period. I like the 360 and the ps3. I know alot of you might now agree with me but it's tru. 280 -
I Keep HearingRetard 11.06.2005 19:36 Killzone 3? where is KIllzone 2? 281 -
HEY RETARDUnregistered - kill zone 12 11.06.2005 19:44 I think they meant kill zone 2 stop being such a d!ck. 282 -
Unregistered - ps3 11.06.2005 19:46 lol if you can hear these post, you got a sixth sense then, dork! 283 -
PAUL CERULA 11.06.2005 20:06 So Far.... PS3 1. No online...porting is a very crappy alternative 2. Blu-ray...impressive and next gen, but can we do without?? 3. The Cell...blatantly a cool new breed of a processor, there's nothing wrong with sticking with what we have now if it puts out very similar performance (360). And still gives a little more physics and stuff but will we notice in the next 3 years 4. 120fps, you won't notice it, but still 5. Hard drive, like the 360 but shouldn't need it cause of the blu-ray 6. Hard game developing definately 7. Just more expensive generally games and console Xbox 360 1. Safe to say best next gen online play 2. DVD-rom, okay it'll work but can developers get the compression of data down to 9.2 double-dvd for HD games. Also if some game can't than switching disks is no problem for the common consumer...so MS sticks with DVD for lower costs 3. Conventional processor, still next gen but not as much as the Cell, but with marginal differences 4. I think 60fps 5. Hard drive is a must for most gamers 6. Conventional and much easier game development 7. Cheaper but without the bells and whisels of Sony's system BOTH ARE NEXT GEN, but ps3 is still pushing the envelope a little more. Again the difference in performance is unnoticable to regular consumers so buy the console for what functions and games you want. Not the hype and flashy titles of Sony. 284 -
Unregistered - NO LONGER A PS3 FAN 11.06.2005 20:42 WTF IS SONY THINKING TO BE HONEST I LOVE PLAYSTAION BUT I HAVE TO GO WITH XBOX 360 BECAUSE OF LIVE PLUS SONY IS FUKING THERE CUSTOMERS AROUND WQITH LAUNCH DATES AND SO ON AND NOW NO ONLINE GAMES PLAY THE PS2 CANT COMPEAT WITH LIVE I SURE SONY CAN DO BETTER WITH THIS 285 -
Hey, Guy...... THIS IS A MUST READ.......~~~~~~~~Unregistered - WooHoo 11.06.2005 21:15 I am a last... standing.... hardcore Nintendo fan.. (they have yet to disappoint me, spec's are for the ill fated) http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=12753 http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=12753 http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=12753 http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=12753 286 -
Unregistered - Ben-N1ce 11.06.2005 21:35 It's pretty obvious that 360 is not Next Gen at all. My computer can run half the games they are coming out with. How is call of Duty 2 next Gen? I can run that game perfectly on my computer now....I sure the hell hope that in 2 years I won't be playing games that look anything like that. Quake 4..funny I can play that on my computer perfectly right now...were is the Next Gen power of the console? Kameo is the closest thing to Next Gen they have. Bottom line is that no way in 3 years the Xbox will even be remotely next gen. I won't pay 400+ dollars for a console while my computer can CLEARLY pump out the same product. Oblivion is the most exciting game and guess what I will be playing that on my PC and it will look just as good if not better than the 360 version. Now somebody explain to me how in a few years this system won't be outdated? It is barely better than a top of the line PC now. 360 will probably be pretty good but it's rather obvious they are thinking right now or a few years while Sony is thinking real Next Gen, even though it may backfire because they are trying to basically make a supercomputer sort of. I played the thing at a Walmart and if that is what I can expect in the next few years I am definitely passing on 360. Look at the game GUN totally laughable and unexceptable as a next Gen Game, If perfect dark doesn't blow your mind what the hell will? Even that looks blah. Condemed = Doom clone slighty better looking if at all. How is this system Next Gen???? Somebody explain this to me cuz I dont' see it. 287 -
Is 360 really Next Gen???? Uhh noooUnregistered - Ben-N1ce! 11.06.2005 21:41 It's pretty obvious that 360 is not Next Gen at all. My computer can run half the games they are coming out with. How is call of Duty 2 next Gen? I can run that game perfectly on my computer now....I sure the hell hope that in 2 years I won't be playing games that look anything like that. Quake 4..funny I can play that on my computer perfectly right now...were is the Next Gen power of the console? Kameo is the closest thing to Next Gen they have. Bottom line is that no way in 3 years the Xbox will even be remotely next gen. I won't pay 400 + dollars for a console while my computer can CLEARLY pump out the same product. Oblivion is the most exciting game and guess what I will be playing that on my PC and it will look just as good if not better than the 360 version. Now somebody explain to me how in a few years this system won't be outdated? It is barely better than a top of the line PC now. 360 will probably be pretty good but it's rather obvious they are thinking right now or a few years while Sony is thinking real Next Gen, even though it may backfire because they are trying to basically make a supercomputer sort of. I played the thing at a Walmart and if that is what I can expect in the next few years I am definitely passing on 360. Look at the game GUN totally laughable and unexceptable as a next Gen Game, If perfect dark doesn't blow your mind what the hell will? Even that looks blah. Condemed = Doom clone slighty better looking if at all. How is this system Next Gen???? Somebody explain this to me cuz I dont' see it. 288 -
PAUL CERULA 11.06.2005 22:10 What the heck guys, most launch titles for the 360 suck graphically if you compare them to a very expensive pc. But still COD2 and PDZ are out of reach of a PC, I don't know about PGR3, but probably. And xbox 360 is next gen, but ps3 just went a little further with different parts. PS3 IS NOT AS GOOD AS SONY WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE. MGS4 and Killzone were of course not the actual game so stop thinking that your going to get an incredibly more powerful system than the xbox 360. You know the comparison is marginal, right now launch titles suck and if ps3 was coming out the same time the games would look the same....FOR SURE. XBOX 360 AND PS3 GAMES AT THE PS3'S LAUNCH WILL BE VERY CLOSE TO THE SAME..duh 289 -
SPARTAN = NOOBUnregistered - Ben-Nice 11.06.2005 22:22 COD2 out of reach on PC. That's funny I own the game. Nice comparison though.... 290 -
# 287maccdaddy 11.06.2005 22:23 just so you know, call of duty 2 like many other games for the xbox 360 are games that are going to be multiplatform so basically the only launch games that will be exclusives for the 360 are pgr3, pd0, and kameo which all look great. If you want to see next gen, just look at gears of war which by the way looks graphically as great as mgs4 and you will still only see a little taste of what the xbox 360 can do. 291 -
to comment 288Havoc 11.06.2005 22:26 What you see in MGS4 is what your going to get, but I do agree with you ps3's launch titles will be similar to 360's in that they won't be the best stuff the console has to offer. But with the ps3 launch you will see on an average more games that look better graphically because they will have more time to work on the games than they did with the 360. Plus you know how Sony wants the deveopers to really take thier time and utilize the ps3. 292 -
Unregistered - huh 11.06.2005 22:31 WHAT THE BALLS IS WRONG WITH THIS SITES FORMAT 293 -
Real Gamer 11.06.2005 22:33 Why is it so hard to believe some people would change their minds and choose to cancel their 360 pre-orders, I did it for the simple fact that I am just not impressed at this time like I thought I would be, Will probably get it later but for now its just not worth it. Others might have decided the same or some might decide they would rather have the PS3 and are choosing to wait. I dont know why others are canceling theirs, all I know is what I was told By a Game store manager, and that others have done the same as I did. Believe me or not, I really couldnt care less. 294 -
to comment 292Havoc 11.06.2005 22:35 I thought it was just me. 295 -
NEXT GENUnregistered - NEXT GEN 11.07.2005 00:26 P_ssy you care cause you didnt you wouldnt be talking about it, further more I dont beleive you cancelled your order matter fact I dont beleive you even had an order. Why would someone cancel the 360 just to wait six months to a year later for another console thats damn near the same and will have just about the same quality of graphics as the console you allegedly cancelled. Then by the time the ps3 does launch your gonna have sucky launch titels and the 360 would have improved drastically. You just don't make sense. The best two was pure sh!t when it launched (titles) and now look at them. So you cant tell me you werent impressed even knowing that the power of the 360 with games running at 720p or better on a hi def tv. Is not impressive, maybe the demo's werent impressive but when the games hit shelves they'll be way better than those kiosk demos, and in six months (maybe even before) you'll see drastic changes in graphics. Hell nah I dont believe you. 296 -
NEXT GENUnregistered - NEXT GEN 11.07.2005 00:29 The *PS2 two was pure sh!t when it launched (titles) now look at them. 297 -
NEXT GEN = DILLUSIONALUnregistered - Ben-N1ce 11.07.2005 00:31 lol lol the games that were in the Kiosk will look way better? I'm sure in less than 20 days they will dramatically improve over what was in those demos. Your dillusional. We will see in due time. 298 -
NEXT GENUnregistered - NEXT GEN 11.07.2005 00:34 We'll see in due time, that's basically what my whole post was about. I never said in by the time the system launched, tho matter of fact some of them may those demo's were old anyway. But yea, in time you'll see dramtic changes, as you did with the ps2 when they first launch. 299 -
PS3 FANS = DILLUSIONAL, PRICK!Unregistered - 007 11.07.2005 00:39 all the man was saying is that by the time the ps3 launches the 360 graphics will have improved. You a sony fan and the ps3 doesnt exist yet and wont til 07 state side. you are the dillusional one. 300 -
lol lolUnregistered - Ben-N1ce 11.07.2005 00:45 360 games will look better in the future??? Really??? that is enlightening. NO sh!t moron. The bottom line is that nothing coming out now is that impressive. I sure the hell ain't spending $500 to play call of duty 2 right now 301 -
Unregistered - THE 22ND 11.07.2005 00:59 That's your problem, sh!t head. I'm gettin my 360 launch day and im excited about it. And i'll get call of duty 2 and what ever else that I want. And yes the games will get better in time until then i'll have atleast two launch titles to hold me over. And your mother the moron, she's a stupid slut that should have drank you, lil bastard! 302 -
F*CK SONY FAN SLUTS B!TCHES/IndicaSativa420Unregistered - IndicaSativa420 11.07.2005 01:12 SONY SUCKS 303 -
Unregistered - Launch 11.07.2005 01:34 The most of the launch titles of xbox360 (excluding the first party games like PGR3) look the way they do because they are ports of current gen games. They dont even scratch the surface of what the 360 is cabable of. COD2 looks good and palys great but is basically the same as the PC version. King Kong is a port of the PC version. Devs havent had enough time with the system yet to utilize it. Im looking forward to xbox360 and the titles that will come after the new year. By the time PS3 launches games like GEars of WAr will be out showing off much more of the systems power. PS3 launch is likly to be the same because lets face it, every console launch has been like that. Im only getting a couple of launch titles(PGr3 and NBA2K6) because there is much greater to come. I cant wait to play PGR3 ON LIVE because it is truly next gen unlike alot of other launch titles. 15 Days 304 -
Unregistered - launch 11.07.2005 01:44 I if you guys didnt now NBA 2k6 for 360 looks very nexgen as far as launch titles go. http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/747/747890/vid_1298756.html http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/747/747890/vid_1304207.html 305 -
I agree maybeeDante 11.07.2005 04:32 look ps3 fans i am one of but let us just give them a chance to at least may 2006 to prove that their system is next-gen one...coz every one knows that ps3 is already a one. 306 -
Not unified onlineUnregistered - TK 11.07.2005 06:00 So what? Does that suddenly mean that you will not be able to play online with the PS3? Come on, PC's have online games for a much longer time and there is no "unified online service" for PC's. Does that meant that online PC gaming is suddenly dead? All it means is that there is no unified online service. Thats all. There will hordes of PS3 online games, and the online experience will be same as with PC's - which by the way is the biggest online gaming community. Do you think there is more XBox online players than PC online players? Of course not. In effect this will change very little. I prefer the console to not have a "unified online service". You will most probably in the next gen see coss platform titles that can join an online game playing from a PS3, PC or other platform. A unified service will hamper this as they will obviously try to lock in the console to only play with their peers and not with other platforms. It is still very early days for online gaming, including PC, XBox* and PS*. One can expect a number of online portals that will host game servers, and they will most prabably be cross platform - actually - it will be inevitable. A unified service pretends that that specific console is the only type in the universe. I would much rather prefer a cross platform portal. All the XBox fans (what are they doing here by the way?) should wake up and realise that the Internet was not suddenly rendered obsolete just because MS decided to launch MSN. In fact, I prefer Google for searching and other news sites than MSN. In the Xbox fanclub reasoning the rest of the internet should have died off when the OS manufacturer launched their own online service. Sorry - did not happen. And the same it will be with online gaming. The console manufacturer will eventually not have the bulk of the online games and not serve the majority of content. IF that is so then you must believe that MS will offer every MP3 and movie out there on XBL, which they wont. The PS3 will play online as good as any PC out there. And third party portals will pop up all over the show. You can not seriously think that a "unified online service" will suddenly be able to handle all online games? Or that you will not get the scenario that Battlefield 7.5 will only be played for Xbox owners on XBL and for PC owners on another server and that they would never want to join games regarding of waht console they own or that console their opponents own. The unified online service argument is crap. Its presence or absence does not magicly make the online capabilities of the hardware appear or disappear. The console is a piece of hardware. The game servers is / will be all over the place, and will present the end user with all kinds of different speeds, content etc. The XBL service is just another couple of servers on the net - thats all. 307 -
#306Unregistered - sony fan 11.07.2005 06:58 very well said. exactly what i'm trying to say. we don't say 360 will fail although it has numerous limitations compared to ps3. but they say ps3 will fail just because it doesn't have a unified onlive service. outrageous! 360 will do very fine but it won't be number one. the first seat is guaranteed already for PS3! 308 -
what do you think about thisUnregistered - sony fan 11.07.2005 07:18 if microsoft did these changes, i think 360 could be a dream console: 1-remove the third cpu core,in turn,add more cache and increase the clock speed like this: xenon cpu,dual threaded dual core,2 MB L2 cache,4 threads@3.5 GHZ 2-add an Ageia Physics processor (PPU) 3-HD-DVD or Blu-ray included 4-only one SKU model with standard HDD This could be my dream xbox 360 sitting near my dream PS3! this system could be on par with PS3. 309 -
Unregistered - sony fan 11.07.2005 08:08 this way,MS deserved to be the king. this system could be number one. but they didn't spend that kind of money. they wanted to do it cheaply. they didn't invest the way sony invested. pity! 310 -
Unregistered - JsonHenry 11.07.2005 08:51 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! So much for "Live in your world, play in ours"!!!! 311 -
Unregistered - boob 11.07.2005 09:32 PS3 sux X360 rox 312 -
Ahhhhhh Strange.........Retard 11.07.2005 09:44 Never realized there where so many wise rhetorical's that came to this site... It's nice to see all of these opinions getting attacked and complemented on... Nintendo is right though, we shouldn't worry about specs; most of us don't realize what they ~Actually~ mean....! Well, they are a gaming company to which has lingered longer then both Sony & Microsoft; they have yet to disappoint me despite spec's on it's hardware... How many of us looked at PS1's and N64's processing power and GPU? (Golden eye for the hard core fans here...) And the issues of games... Sony will have Snake, Mircosoft with his Master Chief, and Zelda & Mario legancy... So yeh... 313 -
Nicely said #312 !Unregistered - WooHoo 11.07.2005 09:59 I think you are right about that whole thing 314 -
Food StampsUnregistered - sadfsdafds 11.07.2005 10:04 Those Damm french got news on Rsx but we don't? WTF!! http://www.ps3-live.com/news-ps3/le-rsx-modifie.html 315 -
#314Unregistered - sony fan 11.07.2005 10:38 it says that RSX is nvidia G71 probably Geforce 7900 which will come in Q1 2006 on PCs. the source is theinquirer.net 316 -
Unregistered - Truth 11.07.2005 15:32 To # 24 in the new post that was deleted, you mentioned bluetooth and that M$ settup was OK and that bluetooth wouldnt take anything away from Ms settup. Are you living in the past? bluetooth is used for more than just PS3 controllers, bluetooth is in mobile phones, PSP and loads more electricals, you could buy a bluetooth dongle for your PC and comunicate with your PC via PS3 that way, what does the M$ controller RF support apart from controllers? nothing. 317 -
Havoc 11.07.2005 15:38 Why was the new post deleted? 318 -
To HavokUnregistered - Truth 11.07.2005 15:40 There was an error, most likely un-fixable 319 -
About Deleted ArticleDusty 11.07.2005 15:42 This comment is about the news post that just got deleted: As Martin Hansen stated, a lot of sites got these quotes in the Hollywood Reporter article messed up including us. It appears that not all of them were made by Stringer, therefore the comments about the release date and price of the PS3 is not reliable enough to be news. I have therefore deleted the article. 320 -
Havoc 11.07.2005 15:50 yea I just read at gamesindustry.biz that the release dates for the ps2 were probably not quoted from Howard Stringer but from the interviewer. 321 -
Havoc 11.07.2005 15:51 I meant ps3 322 -
Unregistered - mr. magoo 11.07.2005 16:06 We understand blu tooth what it is and what it's used for outside of wireless controllers for gaming consoles, I think his point is for gaming the 2.4gh that microsoft is using will do well for it's intended purposes. You are indeed caught up in the hype that sony is so good for creating. You have to understand that after all the smoke clears the ps3 is still only a gaming console. If you played the three sixty with the wirless controller, then played the ps3 with it's wireless controller i'd think you'd notice that they both will respond we'll and will appeal to your gaming pleasure. Then again i've actually used the 360 controller and it is very impressive. So if you were to use the ps3 controller I dont beleive that it can take away from the ms one. You are an sony extremist so I dont if my words or anybody else's would get through your thick skull. The 360 will do well, and personally im all for it. 323 -
Unregistered - update 11.07.2005 16:09 Update ............................PS3 LIVE IS DEAD STILL........................... 324 -
Unregistered - mr. magoo 11.07.2005 16:14 Let me also add this if I didn't before, both the 360 and ps3 are gaming devices at it's core, yes the ps3 may have some bells and whistles, you still want to play great games, and ms has provided a platform in which you can do that, and has improved on live which does take gaming to another level. Im not bashing the ps3 but I cant let it sway me from the 360 seeing as how they are still only gaming machines. I had the n64 when all of you were playing the ps1, Then I got the ps2 in 2000, then a whole sh!t load of people ended up with the current xbox, now im getting the 360 in a few weeks, so i've done all the brands without being loyal to anyone. I did the ps2 thing, now im going to do the xbox 360 thing, it's just that simple. Had I had the xbox last time, i'd be amped up for the ps3 this time. Anyway whatever system you end up with enjoy, not really worth arguing over. My decision is made. peace 325 -
To # 322Unregistered - Truth. 11.07.2005 16:18 Your the one with the thick skull, communicate with your PS3 with your mobile and vice versa communicate with all other bluetooth enabled devices, do you not see, is the 360 emblem hypnotizing you too much to see the light? 326 -
Unregistered - mr. magoo 11.07.2005 16:36 My point is...im more into the games and game play vs. using blu tooth or any of that other garbage you're so infactuated with. Both systems will have there share of non gaming benefits however im sastisfied with the 360. Now you can walk around sounding like a damn sony commercial if you want to but I know the truth, and no my skull is not think, Im very intelligent and comprehend well, thank you. 327 -
To # 326Unregistered - Truth 11.07.2005 16:49 "and no my skull is not think" Should'nt that have been "and no my skull does not think" j/k Agreed, bluetooth isnt apart of PS3 gameing, but downloading stuff to your mobile phone or useing other bluetooth enabled devices with PS3 when I'm not gameing, does interest me yes, its a wireless connection to PS3 for other devices, which I will use. 328 -
What do we know?Unregistered - AT WILL 11.07.2005 17:34 All I want to know is what do we actually know about the PS3? I have not seen a game in action yet (don't count MGS4 cause it was all scripted), I don't know a launch date, I don't know what will come with the system (Sony can't make up their mind on what to keep), and most of all, I don't even know what the controller will look like. They told developers to buy logitech controllers for the PS3 dev. Kits...how funny is that. All this crying does not make sense, since no one knows what Sony is doing. Not a fan boy, but lets keep it real, Sony created nice videos, created a hype machine, and has given pointless specs (120fps...who needs that?). Not saying the machine won't be good, but there is no point in saying one system is better than the other when we can't even compare. Oh and developers themselves say that the difference in power is marginal; let get back to reality and stop expecting a system that is 10x more powerful. 329 -
Unregistered - mr. magoo 11.07.2005 17:52 lol yea, I meant thick. Howver I do understand the technologies in which sony will be providing and me being the gadget freak that I am, trust me I do appreciate the blu tooth, and blu ray and the ps3 in general. But I'm a gamer at heart and won't hold out til 06 or 07 or whenever the ps3 is released. Tho who knows I may end up with one as a gift or something. 330 -
Unregistered - I DIDN'T KNOW SHE WAS YOUR WIFE, MAN 11.07.2005 17:55 Well said..... 331 -
PAUL CERULA 11.07.2005 18:20 All these little functions on both consoles like blu tooth are going to be used by a very small percentage of people. Cool...And Next gen...but not necessary and SHOULDN'T BE LUMPED TOGETHER TO SELL A CONSOLE. When it all comes down to the bottom line and developers agreeing there being marginal differences, both consoles beat each other in different areas so YOU KNOW that PERFORMANCE IS NOT AN ISSUE WITH THE XBOX 360 AND PS3. 332 -
this kid does not stop!Bill Gates 11.07.2005 18:32 Spartan of 777 has got to have about the dumbest posts on this site, and every other site for that matter. It's like the kid is talking straight from his butt hole. Nothing you say makes since. A year from now you're going to look back at this point in your life and realize what a hypocrite you are, when you're sitting alone playing a PS3. I dare you to use SPARTAN OF 777 as your screen name for Xbox LIVE. I bet you wouldn't because no one would want to play with your stupid ass. Either make since or STFU you idiot. No one here gives a crap what you have to say. 333 -
sorry....LOLBill Gates 11.07.2005 18:34 lol....I meant "cense" every time. LOL 334 -
Bill Gates 11.07.2005 18:35 sorry I created the 360 so you know I can't be all that smart. 335 -
billy PAUL CERULA 11.07.2005 18:59 billy billy, thanks again for having absolutely nothing to say or contribute to the forum, but to show how tough you are online. I'm scared I tell you. And to answer your question my screenname on xbox live is SPARTAN OF 777, but this account was cancelled so I'm not sure if I can pick it up again. If I can you can bet yourself this will be name. Your only exposing my opinions when you brainlessly rant on how stupid I am, but all you can do is name call so.... Ps3 fans who are dedicated to the label are too narrow minded for me to be amongst them, and usually the few morons amongst them think they can suppress me through moronic critiques of what I say are just ignoring the harsh facts I remind them of So once again according to developers and factual based opinions, PERFORMANCE IS NOT AN ISSUE WITH THE XBOX 360 AND PS3 336 -
Unregistered - USA 11.07.2005 19:00 lol ya'll support a f+ckin chink? 337 -
Unregistered - me 11.07.2005 19:03 xbox 360 fans who are dedicated to the label are too narrow minded for me to be amongst them, and usually the few morons amongst them think they can suppress me through moronic critiques of what I say are just ignoring the harsh facts I remind them of So once again according to developers and factual based opinions, PERFORMANCE IS NOT AN ISSUE WITH THE PS3 but with xbox 360 it is 338 -
To SPARTANUnregistered - PS3playa 11.07.2005 19:18 "All these little functions on both consoles like blu tooth are going to be used by a very small percentage of people." I know that anyone with a mobile phone (which almost everyone has) visiting my house will want to connect to my PS3 for free downloads that are on my PS3, I'm sure lots of other people will experience the same thing who have a PS3. This is just one thing that will get PS3 more recognised, by more people, while your playing on your own against the world on Xbox live, enjoy your 360 experience. 339 -
#335Bill Gates 11.07.2005 19:20 Why can't you be more like the typical Xbox fan like #336? At least he's not a two face like you. That's it my little xbot (#336) show your true hatred towards everything you don't understand. I don't know why you're getting so excited anyways, when I allready told you I'm not selling you a 360. 340 -
338Unregistered - Frank White 11.07.2005 19:22 actually, while we are playing live and are connected, you'll be playin with your damn phone, lookin extra stupid by yourself, and no one callin, sucka! 341 -
To SPARTANUnregistered - PS3playa 11.07.2005 19:23 When did X360 have bluetooth? like I said all those friends of mine wanting a PS3, because of all the things it can do, X360 is for loners. 342 -
ring tonesUnregistered - 360 11.07.2005 19:25 OMG! You could download ring tones using your phone why the hell do you need a ps3 to do that, you are so stupid!!!!!! 343 -
To # 342Unregistered - PS3playa 11.07.2005 19:28 how much does it cost to download the ringtones, screensavers and all the other mobile related stuff? Bluetooth alows free sownloads, dumb ass. 344 -
LOL TRU IDIOT!Unregistered - TYLOR 11.07.2005 19:29 everytime you post you seem to loose large amounts of brain cells, the 360 is designed for online connections and services bringing people together what the hell do you think live is. You are the tru loner if you think people would come to you just to get ring tones from you, how fun is that. You are the king of idiots I swear. 345 -
Unregistered - TYLOR 11.07.2005 19:34 Im a grown man, I can pay for what ever it is I need or want. Ring tones and all those little gimicks sony comes up are for you and your kind. you'll fall for anything if you dont stand for somthin. Ps3 playa looks like you the one gettin played. How old are you anyway I feel like im talkin to one of those manish grade school brats. No one I know wants to get together and just spend hours downloadin ringtones, that's retarted and if it's free guess what, they suck! 346 -
344Unregistered - PS3playa 11.07.2005 19:34 Your the true loner, X360 will have you playing on your own, PS3 upto 7 players and online if you want, online isnt my think I prefere to see the people I'm plying, in the flesh, good mates, not some spotty kid on live. 347 -
Unregistered - PS3Player 11.07.2005 19:39 Spartan has taken the place of Vivicious but not as vicious as vivicious was, i'm glad that that small timer is gone, i thought you Spartan would do the same, but nah you're still here blah blah blah like a little b*tch on how the 360 is better, don't you get it merely nobody wants a 360, people are waiting for the PS3 and you're scared, i don't know why but you are. So please, see i'm asking nicely, get out of that closet BIll Gates put you in, and you'll see the reality, when it comes to videogames, there'se no better, no one do it like Sony, for you to try to downplay their enormous success proves that you're nothing more than another small timer, so STFu man, quit snitching around, at the end of the day you'll only get a 360 that you will buy yourself, so save your stinking breath for November 22, aight man? Peace, you sick **** 348 -
To # 345Unregistered - Graeme 11.07.2005 19:44 For someone who says he is grown up, your spelling is very bad, if the guy you are talking to is a kid, I doubt he will be using the PS3 just for downloading stuff to his phone, so I think you need to wise up on what he is saying. Yes he maybe young, but he has a point, he is saying him and his mates can share the same phone content stored on his PS3, what is wrong with that? Just because your maybe older than him doesn't give you the right to put the kid down for speaking the truth. Anyway peace, the lot of you. 349 -
Unregistered - Tylor 11.07.2005 19:45 Okay, big deal, 7 controllers. I'll have four controller, plus live and who the hell said you can't have freinds over with the 360. I mean in your case all you doing is downloading ring tones to a phone aint nobody going to call you on. I have a beautiful woman and a 7 year old daughter and friends family, neigbors Why the hell would I have to be alone you are contantly proven you're an idiot. you'll have seven controllers and six of them will be collecting dust as you try to beat the computers a.i. After work, and on weekends I play xbox live with my buddy's. And with halo 2 forget about, it's to much fun. Now go and play with your little ring tones and leave this forum to people who enjoy gaming. idiot! 350 -
Unregistered - Tylor 11.07.2005 19:47 I understand the point that the little sh*t is tryin to make but my point is don't run up on the big dog, im may only be 22 but my mind is stronger than his. And as far as my spelling yea I might mispell a word here and there sue me. 351 -
To # 349Unregistered - PS3playa 11.07.2005 20:14 Your an x360 fan wat you doin on here? look what you said "And with halo 2 forget about, it's to much fun. Now go and play with your little ring tones and leave this forum to people who enjoy gaming. idiot!" Your just jealus cos X360 dont have all the features PS3 has, you go leave the forum, and Grame is right, I wont just be useing PS3 for ringtones dumb ass. 352 -
Vivicious 11.07.2005 20:17 Just like to point out to the person that stated that the PS 2 would have sold less if it was aimed at casual gamers...gnnff (Trying to hold in laughter hehe). That's the whole reason it sold so well dummy! =P It's purely for casual gamers (and hardcore gamers alike of course), little kids, parents, anti-gamers, they all know the name Playstation. And when it comes down to it, that's what they buy. Why do you think MS lost so much last round? Because their marketing or console was bad? No, they were buying their way into the market and name familiarity. Xbox was more for the hardcore gamer, but you're making it sound like that's too much of a compliment to them. Of course it's for the hardcore gamer, the regular crowd knew next to nothing about it, and the people that had the money..well why not? Better graphics at times, and some exclusive titles can never go wrong. Playstation got where it is today thanks to both crowds, so Xbox was only unlucky to be mainly for the hardcore crowd. People also seem to forget how big the marketing machine was running at Sony during the introduction of the Playstation. 353 -
Unregistered - Tylor 11.07.2005 20:17 Any way, Im all for the 360 as well, tho by the time the ps3 is actually released I may end up with one as well. I hoping that ms has some really good titles lined up. No I would'nt wait til 06 to get a system cause Im not a ps3 fanatic neither, Matter of fact if I ended up with a ps3 it'll be after several price drops and maybe after the new smaller designs come out. Til then it's the 360...deal with it. 354 -
Unregistered - Tylor 11.07.2005 20:20 lol, who's the dumbass here really? Ps3 doesnt even exist yet. And they are dropping features left and right, So when it does come out i'll be excited about it then, and as far as me being on this site, It's the internet and I am a gamer I want to know about things, so I read about it. Is that a problem you little brat. 355 -
Vivicious 11.07.2005 20:21 "Sony’s seemingly laid-back approach to the PS3’s online services may indicate that the company does not consider online gaming to be a key drawcard in the race for next-generation supremacy. " This whole article is a perfect example. Sony knows that the casual gamer's biggest needs are not an online service, do I completely agree with them? Well, no, I'd love to have seen an Xbox Live equivalent on the PS3, but I agree it's not a necessity to earn the big bucks and it's not the end of the world for hardcore gamers either. 356 -
to # 353Unregistered - PS3playa 11.07.2005 20:22 LOL! enjoy your next gen games like Monster Madness on X360 what a joke! 357 -
Unregistered - theonenonly 11.07.2005 20:25 If you exclude the flamming there are some good points. Stop saying xbox 360 is for loners and PS3 is to play with friends because like Tylor is saying that is bullshit. Xbox360 has the better online experience (at least it is shaping up that way) and it has 4 countroller support so if you want to have friends play at your house you can. You dont need 7 controllers which by the way is pretty dum. Who wants to play 7 way split screen. Unless you have 2 TVs side by side its pretty worthless and most games wont support more than 4 players offline anyway. If any console was for loners it was the PS2 (2 controllers, no system link, and poor online). So please cut all these no substance comments. 14 DAYS 358 -
Unregistered - Yusef Malik 11.07.2005 20:26 vivacious (g@y ass name) look, you only reinerated what the guy said, who the phuck asked you anyway. Take your transexual lookin ass back in the closet phuckin f@ggot. 359 -
Vivicious 11.07.2005 20:27 #356, you're as bad as those Xbox yokels over at the other site. Lemme paste something i posted there: "Lol, the average age on this site must be really dipping by now. No, the xbox could not run this game (look at some videos for God's sake, it's be choppy as hell.) and no the world of gaming does not evolve around graphics alone. Go buy games like NBA 2k6 for their graphics and be fed up with the gameplay the next day, and leave the hardcore gamers to their flexibility amd wide arrange of quality titles. " And stop being so childish (not just you of course, you're just concidentally the last person to post at the moment :P) and start at least posting some stuff that other people might be interested in. Or at least your own comments and thoughts on the subject, not endless bickering between people that pretend to be 76 and live in Beiroet. 360 -
#353Unregistered - theonenonly 11.07.2005 20:28 Umm do you honestly think that every game on PS3 will look like MGS4. Xbox360 as well as PS3 will have their share of bargin bin titles like Monster Madness. 361 -
Vivicious 11.07.2005 20:28 Look at #358: I rest my case. 362 -
Unregistered - Tylor 11.07.2005 20:29 The one and only, I couldn't have said that better my self, hi five. These ps3 droids seem incapable of thinking for themselves. While they are dreaming of downloading ring tones we'll be onlive enjoy a actual system that actually exist. 363 -
Xbot retards THIS! site is PS3TodayUnregistered - PS3playa 11.07.2005 20:30 Why all the Xbots on a PS3 site? why dont you all fook off and leave us to talk about PS3, no one on here cares about X360 or how many days there is to launch, so you can all pay $60 for monster madness, goodby retards. 364 -
Unregistered - theonenonly 11.07.2005 20:34 Amd you never now the gamplay and online play of Monstermadness could be kick as. Its graphics dont look bad and it could have like 100+ players online. That would kick ass. I just watched a gameplay video and it looked pretty fun. 365 -
Unregistered - me 11.07.2005 20:36 ps3 playa dont forget that horrible looking game "gun" 366 -
361Unregistered - TYLOR 11.07.2005 20:38 I think he was being sarcastic, your name is rather homo (no offense pal). And to you little brat, that shows how close minded you are. Yes I am a 360 fan. But that doesnt take away from me learning about the ps3 after all I love games in general no matter what system their on. Go and dream about your ringtones, you little turd. 367 -
same sh*tUnregistered - me 11.07.2005 20:40 please tell how long will it take you xbots to get bored of the same online play. whether its 32 or 100 players you are doing the same sh*t over and over agian,just constantly shooting at each other. 368 -
Unregistered - theonenonly 11.07.2005 20:48 Like I said ever gamey cant look like GEars of War, or MGS4 on any system even the PS3. Like said no substance. Judging games off of graphics alone. So if every game Looked like the Killzone trailer but had gameplay about as fun as kicking a dirtclod around you would be happy. 369 -
Unregistered - theonenonly 11.07.2005 20:55 Wow i just thought of a killer app for PS3. Hackysack with photo realistic graphics. But really thats what you guys sound like you want by shooting down games because of graphics without even nowing the game and how it plays. 370 -
Vivicious 11.07.2005 20:56 If that is sarcasm, either you or that guy have no idea what the world entails. And you finding a name "g@y" only shows your ignorance and age group, so good on ya! Anyway, I was going to post some quick news, but now it might seem like I'm making fun of post #365, but I'll post it anyway: GUN has been confirmed for PS3 as well. Seems like a pretty fun game, wonder how it will turn out. I don't think it will be my type of game, just for those who are interested I thought I'd post this. 371 -
Unregistered - me 11.07.2005 20:57 we can judge mgs4 on graphics alone because everyone that has touched any of the previous titles know the storyline/gameplay is going to be great. but we dont know what the hell gow is so who knows what the gameplay/storyline is like. 372 -
lolUnregistered - Rich 11.07.2005 20:58 Sony just don't get it online is getting big and Sony online plans are getting small. 373 -
To 366Unregistered - PS3playa 11.07.2005 21:03 Why do you keep going on about the ringtone thing, did that piss you off so much cos you X360 dont have bluetooth jeez what a retard. To # 365 I just watched a hi-def vid of that, yea your right it looks like ass just like monster madness, most X360 games look like this gen tho, so GUN was no surprise. their all Xtards wasteing their money on something that doesnt show next gen "HD ERA" graphics. 374 -
Unregistered - me 11.07.2005 21:08 #372 if online is so big why only 10% xbots use it. 375 -
To # 371Unregistered - PS3playa 11.07.2005 21:10 I've seen the developer interview and they show gameplay, it looks like this gen and the charecter animation looks choppy, no motion capture used here, gameplay looks weak, dont know about the story tho. 376 -
To # 371Unregistered - PS3playa 11.07.2005 21:14 I was talking about GoW BTW 377 -
To ViviciousUnregistered - PS3playa 11.07.2005 21:35 Even if GUN is on PS3 I wont be getting it, it looks like ass and looks boreing, it can stay on X360 where it belongs. 378 -
Unregistered - PS3playa 11.07.2005 21:43 The only games on X360 that have made me want the console so far are PGR3 and Kameo, the rest suck, but its early days. I'm gonna wait till I see more good games before I buy. 379 -
Unregistered - asdf 11.07.2005 21:57 PERFECT DARK ZERO WITH ONLINE BOTS AND 5 to 10 times bigger multiplayer maps than any FPS, AND 32 PLAYER ONLINE.....OWWW YAHHH ........................Update Ps3 Still has No Live............................. 380 -
A moment of your time please.Bill Gates 11.07.2005 22:01 If I hear the focking term again that the Xbox is for hardcore gamers, I'm going to go postal on "Spartan b!tch 777"…LOL. What that fock "IS" a hardcore gamer? Dumb @sses. There is no such freaking thing you idiots. I, Bill Gates, made it up to make all of you xbots join my party u fools. Does the term "Hardcore Gamer" mean that if you enjoyed playing any of the following games (Mario Kart, Top Spin, the original Super Mario Bro., Zelda), or any other great game that I didn't mention, than you shouldn't get a 360 because it's only for hardcore gamers and you don't qualify because you enjoyed these games. You're so f-ing dumb people. Specially you vivicious for labeling the Xbox as the "hardcore" gaming system. Can't you all see that I, Bill Gates brainwashed you all with my First Person Shooters into making you believe that if you don't like FPSs than you're just not a true hardcore gamer. Wake up people, there is no such thing. So dumb you are,..Yes, says Yoda. Spartan give it up kid. OMG. You make absolutely NO cense. I know that you’re trying to get to that “778” goal of yours but I already told you I’m cutting you off. You’re no longer my b!tch. If you keep this up I’m not even going to let you by any of the upcoming FacePlates you douche. “Hardcore Gamer”,….give me a break. I’ll give you something “Hard”. I’m Bill Gates, and I’m out. 381 -
PAUL CERULA 11.07.2005 22:08 bill gates what the heck are you talking about. Also you really think I'll quit making points and reminding ps3 fans of their decision after tons of other people have tried to get me to leave before you. bill your no different than any of the other clowns before you 382 -
381Bill Gates 11.07.2005 22:15 Shut YOur Mouth SFARTAN. Don't you know you're talking to Bill Gates? or have you forgotten what I created for you xbots? Know your place little boy! Now if anyone wants to see a really cool video that some kid created without getting paid, here it is. I wished my xbots love me enough to create videos like this without getting paid. This is called true loyalty for what you know is the sh!t. I came across this on engadget.com check it out. http://www.theonlyt.com.nyud.net:8090/Main/Animations/Sony/sony_style.mov 383 -
Over promised again.Unregistered - Evan 11.07.2005 22:32 We all know sony just over promised again. im getting alot of rumors that they are clocking their cores at 2.4 and some about releasing in 2007 for the price to go down. im also hearing that the graphics card and ram does not comepete to xbox's card... god whats more important in a video game system. video card or processor? seriously.. ur not using ur ps3 as a server. 384 -
billPAUL CERULA 11.07.2005 22:37 bill that is a cool video and the psp is definately the best portable in my opinion. But still you insist on filling paragraphs with a whole lot of nothing....just brainless rants 385 -
Unregistered - Evan 11.07.2005 22:40 Btw to those people who think xbox live still costs money monthly is wrong. ITS FREE WITH XB360 400 dollar version! 386 -
derr....#385Unregistered - poopmouth 11.07.2005 22:57 and why do you think it is $400, dumbass 387 -
SpartanUnregistered - Fatal Frame 11.07.2005 23:02 I don't know what rock you're living under but I think Bill Gates made a very clear point in post #380. He's prety much right on the money with everything he said. There is no such thing as a Hardore gamer. That's all bull crap that Microsoft created for marketing. Also that video was really cool Bill Gates. I can't wait for the release of Fatal Frame III. Another greeat game to play after Shadow of the Colossus. 388 -
PS3 IS VAPOR WARE THAT'LL MATERIALISE TO PURE SH!T. F_CKAZ!Unregistered - TYLOR, LOL @ PS3 NERDS WAITING FOR SOMETHING THAT'LL NEVER HAPPEN F*CKERS! 11.07.2005 23:38 Well you were the one boasting about ring tones so you got you lil dumb ass snapped on. The xbox 360 exist, ps3 is vapor ware, so you'll be playing that same sh!tty ps2 til next year only to get a upgrade that's going to run smack dab into the 360 you know it, you lil peice of sh!t. Now say what you will after this post cause this will be the last time i'll be on it. And no you didnt make me mad please, over a game console how dumb is that. To you and all of the ps3 sh!t heads, ps3 does not exist and when it does you will not be downloading ring tones, and any of that bull sh!t you were promised. Just like when you all thought you were going to have an live type of online even that sh!t got snatched. I even heard that, sony is begging logitech to assist with their wireless technology, how blu tooth is that, you f_cks will beleive anything sony tells you, Even psm magazine had a spread on all the sh!t sony is taking out of the ps3, and even did a poll on what else would go. So you see by the time you get it, it'll be what it was designed to be, a gaming machine. Marketing and brain washing is what sony does best and by the looks of it, it's working no matter how small it might be. So flame on, talk sh!t do what you do, i'll never see it lol. Just look at the forum where in, ps3 is dead. That should tell your lil stupid @ss somethin right there. XBOX 360 IS THE KING OF CONSOLES AND YOU HOMO'S KNOW IT. the pathetic sorry 3 lol that's what you're waiting on. Losers!!!! 360 NOV 22, 2005. Yeah we know you envy it. Biotches. 389 -
PAUL CERULA 11.07.2005 23:40 What the heck, your telling me that there is no such thing as a hardcore gamer. That terms been around since video games came out, not exactly but you get the idea. That's a term anyone would use to describe the type of person who is really involved in the video games more than others. That's the dumbest point I've ever heard someone try to get across 390 -
360 for hardcore gamers? NO WAY!Unregistered - zooc 11.07.2005 23:42 If Xbox and X360 are for hardcore gamers WTF are you on here all the time for, shouldn't you be hard at work playing your Xbox right now? (Xbox and X360 for hardcore gamers my arse) 391 -
to comment 383Havoc 11.07.2005 23:49 Hey xbox faboys, come get your boy evan I think he just lost his mind, I don't know what internet he surfs or where he gets his sources from. Evan I think you need to sit the bench on this one, take a time out. 392 -
To # 388Unregistered - PS3playa 11.07.2005 23:50 LOL! what a DlCK! worried about us useing bluetooth to get ringtones LOL! goodbye! 393 -
#388 and #389Bill Gates 11.08.2005 00:00 OMG.. Why lord, why, must my xbots be so focking STUPID. They sound like complete angry and dumb 13 year olds going through puberty with no life (no offence to those intelligent 13 year olds). Spartan you must be the dumbest one of all. Why must you take things so literally? If you consider yourself a "hardcore Gamer", than that just proves how dumb you really are. "Hardcore" just means you have no life, which proves me right. As a matter of fact anyone who titles themselves a hardcore gamer from now on is a complete MORON. Damn it I should have never used that as a marketing strategy. Now I have a bunch of MORONS calling themselves "hardcore gamers". Why couldn't these douche bags just say they enjoy playing video games because they're fun, and entertaining? Noooo....they have to go around saying they're "hardcore gamers", like that actually means something. MORONS. That's it I'm pulling the plug on the 360. SFARTAN, please do not respond to this because everything that comes out of your mouth is garbage. 394 -
Bill Gates 11.08.2005 00:10 Sony fans, I apologize for my xbots. But I have to hand it to posts 383, 388 and 389, between these three individuals I don't think their IQ would be the equivalent to that of a c0ckroach. Dumb @sses. Why couldn't my 360 followers be more like the Sony fan boys, I must be cursed or something. #383 was by far the funniest though, 388….well never mind, you know what I’m thinking. Last but definitely not lease SFARTAN being SFARTAN. 395 -
PAUL CERULA 11.08.2005 00:10 bill you have nothing to say, your just another ps3 stooge trying to make fun of me. No i'm not a hardcore gamer, most though would buy both or all three consoles. That's not an issue. bill you really have nothing to say and i've stopped reading your comments if I see the name spartan in it. Because what you have to say is meaningless 396 -
to comment 388Havoc 11.08.2005 00:10 Thats all y'all claim is that sony is dropping features, thats what you hope so when the ps3 comes out it won't make the 360 look bad. Come launch time for ps3 when it still have all it's features and you xbox fanboy will stop blabing at the mouth talking about "oh the ps3 is vaporware". 397 -
To SPARTANUnregistered - zooc 11.08.2005 00:29 So in other words A hardcore gamer would have a gamecube PS2 and because he was a hardcore gamer he would also have an Xbox, right? now onto next gen A hardcore gamer would buy PS3 a Revolution then X360 because he is a hardcore gamer... I think I get it now, you have to be a hardcore gamer to get an Xbox or X360 and own all three consoles, well I cant afford all 3 so I musnt be a hardcore gamer, I'll just get PS3 then, that suites all gamers. Ah wait! you cant get an X360 either cos you would need the other 2 consoles too, X360 is only for Hard core gamers remember? 398 -
PAUL CERULA 11.08.2005 00:50 previous writer, i didn't say all of them will buy all three consoles your a moron for taking that to the extreme. There are many definitions of a hardcore gamer so stop trying to start crap with me son. Change the subject, who started this anyways 399 -
To SPARTANUnregistered - zooc 11.08.2005 01:40 LOL change the subject, X360 is supposed to be for hardcore gamers, that means you will be getting PS3 and revolution, if you get X360, cos hardcore gamers buy more than one console and in most cases all of them. 400 -
To SPARTANUnregistered - zooc 11.08.2005 01:52 I'll probably pick an X360 up when it crash and burns on PS3's launch day, just like the Dreamcast did, have fun till then my friend. 401 -
PAUL CERULA 11.08.2005 01:54 you idiots who think the xbox 360 or the ps3 will crash and burn are wrong. Xbox and ps3 fans will primarily stick close to their console so quit being morons and making brainless claims 402 -
NO LIVE -> ANOTHER BREAKED PROMISE ?Unregistered - console man 11.08.2005 03:59 So sony has to change its brand name to SORRY PLAYSTATION 3 :))))))))))) 403 -
Unregistered - wotter 11.08.2005 04:56 lol and the xbox360 to excusebox360 404 -
Xbot RetardsUnregistered - xbot retards 11.08.2005 05:29 It's BROKEN not BREAKED. Sony never promised that. Xbot LIVE my ass! 405 -
Hardcore GamersUnregistered - AT WILL 11.08.2005 10:00 The term "Hardcore Gamer" means a person who is very interested in video games. They like video games and it's a hobby for that person. It is not as technical as having all three systems, or playing 24/7. Stop taking things to the extreme. Also, why is everyone a fanboy when they have an opinion on which console they support. I do support the Xbox360 because I have seen that it is real and I like the games and Xbox live. I know absolutely nothing but PS3 except it will use blu-ray and cell. No real game play videos yet! Also, Xbox live is a great service and just because 10% of gamers use it now, doesn't mean that many more won't go online. To add, 10% is a great number since they started with zero, they were the first unified online service, and that 10% is about 2 million people, if not more now. 406 -
PAUL CERULA 11.08.2005 11:04 Adding to the previous comment, if you start to see how xbox live originated it was very subtle and not pronounced as a great xbox tool. As a result of not having xbox live when the console came out there was a huge part of the market who didn't use live. My prediction on the percentage of xbox live users for the xbox 360 will jump from 10% to 30%. And that's a lot of people. Exspecially since ps3 won't have live more people will rely on the xbox 360 for the ultimate online multiplayer experience. Also Perfect dark zero has maps 5-10 times bigger than any multiplayer maps from any fps game, online bots, and online cooperative. 407 -
Unregistered - Silverback 11.08.2005 11:09 If this article is true and there will be no unified live for the PS3, at least in the near future, I believe it to be a huge mistake. Even Nintendo the king of f**ups last gen is going this direction. I love the fact that I can get on xbox live and see the games my friends are playing and jump right on in with them, keep track of their scores in different games, have a online identity and that follows me to every game I play, have multiple zones of play so I don't have to deal with racists, team killers, and immature bratts. The list goes on and on. Truly, something like Xbox live is a more powerful feature than some non proven dvd format, Blue Ray. Don't get me wrong I want more space on my dvd's but that isn't why I buy a game console. I will buy all consoles but this little tid bit of news, if it is true, will only make me prolong the purchase of the PS3 and buy fewer games for it, especially the cross platform games. It baffles me that anyone could consider themselves a fairly serious gamer and not lament this decision by Sony. Sure not everyone plays online but the benifits of playing online are so huge that it only makes sense for the casual gamer. 408 -
#380Vivicious 11.08.2005 12:23 You say yourself you don't know what the term entails, so why are you making yourself look like an idiot and posting the whole bs story after that? Didn't even read it, just shut your mouth if you don't know what you're talking about, I'm not going to explain it again. Idiot. 409 -
Vivicious 11.08.2005 12:26 "There is no such thing as a Hardore gamer. That's all bull crap that Microsoft created for marketing." LOL! That is just so funny, you're just as bad as that Spartan guy. if you've been gaming for longer than 5-10 years, I pity you, I really do. Jeez, and you actually believe this don't you? Now suddenly MS has created a gaming lingo that every selfrespecting gamer from the 90's should know for decades....Ha! 410 -
You have to wonder why?????Kid Sidious 11.08.2005 13:42 I mean most of the posts have been more of the ps3 vs 360 argument. But no one has question why? Look at it from this perspective for a PS3 game to be live then the Game Developr would have to put servers in place and spend extra time with programming all the bells and whistles that make online gaming fun. Plus put up extra money to develop tools to make a game for the ps3, plus have the revenue to support servers and maintainence and customer support for any glitches you may have with the game. It could be just me but it seems as if Sony don't want anything to do with this but to give you the gamer the ability to connect online and give the developer all the costs with supporting it. I know a lot of people who loves the ps2 and is going to get the ps3. But have anybody stopped long enough with the 360 bashing to question the what if? Holla back 411 -
some thoughtsUnregistered - NorwegianGrizly 11.08.2005 14:09 i've been thinking about the xbox360 and the ps3 The ps3 is designed for the future okay. but even if the ps3 really would really own the xbox, even if it did i would by the xbox360. why? because i've had both ps2 and xbox, and i most certantly know who i like the best... DA XBOX. its just a feeling :) Before some fanboy decides to call me a fanboy.... i'm not....so go screw yourselves 412 -
Kid SidiousVivicious 11.08.2005 15:34 I agree that in potential it will cost the developers more to bring out an online game with this free online network compared to the central point Live offers developers. Not to mention the fact that for every game you have to register, set things up, etc. But I don't quite follow you with "paying for their development tools"? Both consoles have great developing software available, and even though MS is of course known for it, Sony seems to be on the right track. 413 -
ps3 will crush xbox360Unregistered - I am who i am 11.08.2005 15:37 Look all this shyt talking wont get us anywhere! Microsoft is so desprate to come out on top in the console wars they hurried up to launch their system, The bottom line is that sony has ruled the xbox and what makes u think it wont rule the xbox 360? Explain to me chump.....xbox360 wont even come close to what the ps3 will do! Looking at all the trailers for both new systems its clear that ps3 looks alot better. MetalGearSolid3 have you seen the trailer omg its fuccking nuttz...xbox360 games look like pc games. Oh and one more thing having to pay extra for online gaming its totally ridiculous. We already pay for internet service why pay more. You got to be a dummy to pay more. 414 -
Vivicious 11.08.2005 16:59 Why don't you guys go and check out the trailers for Armored Core, both PS3 and X360 version and put your mind at rest. 415 -
Vivicious 11.08.2005 16:59 Why don't you guys go and check out the trailers for Armored Core, both PS3 and X360 version and put your mind at rest. They can be found at IGN. 416 -
Unregistered - me 11.08.2005 17:21 niether of those vidios are running on xbox 360 /ps3 hardware. so it does not even matter xbot. 417 -
Funny to the DeathUnregistered - PS3Player 11.08.2005 17:40 Here's something you guys will enjoy reading, it's nothing complicated, where you guys will start using words that only the people in the fields and act like you know something, it's simple to understand. The Xbox360 compared to the Dreamcast (MS cons): go to http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3145154&did=1 The Xbox360 compared to the Dreamcast (MS pros): go to http://www.1up.com/do/feature?pager.offset=1&cId=3145154 I have posted something that will satisfy both end of the aisle, even though i enjoyed the first one more. This is my opinion after reading the comparison: The people who think that the PS3 is about to go out, just because they hate Sony are so lying to themselves and are full of sh*t, it's not going to happen. so if you wanna get a 360 go ahead, but you've been warned, people are truly waiting fpr the launch of the PS3. Believe it or not Sony is about to make history again, yet another successful story in a book yet to be written, give it to them in everything there's always a master and we may be looking at them (Sony). 418 -
#416Vivicious 11.08.2005 18:49 Who the hell are you talking to anyway, with your "xbot" bullshit? Get off this site and leave the real fans of the PS3 and gaming in general in peace. And if you don't trust IGN as a source that's your problem. " From Software is in the process of bringing Armored Core 4 to both the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360, and has released a pair of trailers, each said to be running on one of the machines. The PS3 trailer was first shown at the PS Meeting where the game was known as Project Force, but now we have a direct feed version. Likewise for the Xbox 360 trailer, which debuted at the Tokyo Game Show but is now available for the first time in direct feed form." Get a life moron. 419 -
#417Vivicious 11.08.2005 18:52 Yea, I saw that, had already posted it at the X360 affiliate site. Most real fans of any console love it of course, it doesn't really say anything but it's def. pretty funny =P How they come up with some of those I don't know, still, fun read. Does really make you feel sorry for Sega everytime you read that kind of stuff though, the only reason they really didnt make it was because of lack of support from EA or Squaresoft. 420 -
Vivicious 11.08.2005 18:53 I don't really get your comparison though, do you mean you actually got something out of a joke like that? Or was that also a joke? =D 421 -
Unregistered - me 11.08.2005 19:03 Vivicious you are the moron get the hell out of here if you like xbox 1.5 so much xbot. 422 -
Vivicious 11.08.2005 19:15 Wow me, it's so obvious you're such an xbox fanboy it's sickening. Doesn't daddy need the computer to look up his settlement date? 423 -
Vivicious Bill Gates 11.08.2005 19:18 You're either stupid, or dumb. Take your pick you MORON. You actually mean to tell me that you go around telling people that you're a "hardcore gamer"? Anyone who labels themselves "hardcore" anything is a complete fool. Besides gaming, I also enjoy running, and focking my girlfriend, but I don't go around calling myself a "hardcore runner". I understand the term has been around for a long time you idiot. Quit understanding like you're 10 years old. It wasn't until Microsoft started throwing the term around that gamers began labeling themselves "hardcore" like it actually means something. It doesn't mean jack sh!t you HOMO. Let me put it to you in simpler terms. Do you think when a gamer is told, "So, you're a gamer?" that they respond back, "No, I'm a hardcore gamer." I enjoy video games now just as much as I did when I was playing the NES and never did my friends and I refer to one another as "hardcore gamers". Grow tha fock up you "hardcore fock face MORON”. I’m Bill Gates, and you better respect me or else you're not getting a 360 just like your boyfriend SPARTAN OF 777. 424 -
Vivicious 11.08.2005 19:28 Right, I'm stupid, yet you're the one dreaming up things I've said? Or do you just not read properly yet? Not once have I said anything about myself being a "hardcore gamer", all I did was laugh at your ignorance. Several people have already tried to explain it to you, #405 has probably said it best so far. Obviously you have no idea what makes someone a casual or hardcore gamer, and like a little kid you lash out at what you don't understand. =P Go back to your lame propaganda you little creep, you obviously know next to nothing about gaming in general, I guess you haven't been around long enough for that. I mean, that name and atittude alone just scream maturity....*ahem* You've already ridiculed yourself, and people have corrected you, yet you still persist. I guess that makes you an idiot, and a stubborn one at that. 425 -
vivicious the idiot.Bill Gates 11.08.2005 19:53 I told you to respect me you "hardcore gamer" vivicious homo. Get a life. Just for that I'm not allowing you on LIVE. Casual gamer my @ss. I really thought you were a little smarter than you turned out to be. Since when does one feel the need to label thamselves a Casual, or Hardcore gamer. GOD you're either very stupid, or you have no life, that you feel the need to label yourself one of these. I'm gonna go take a "casual" or Hardcore" sh!t now. You decide since I also enjoy taking sh!ts while I think about how dumb blinded with label some people can be. 426 -
Vivicious 11.08.2005 20:13 If you think I'm going to bicker with some little kid like you, someone who can't even admit how wrong they are or realise how stupid they sound, think again. 427 -
Bill Gates 11.08.2005 20:23 I'm not wrong. You're just too stupid to understand. i've probably been gaming longer than you you Moron. Calling me a little kid,...when you're the one labeling systems and people as causal or hardcore, you douche. Peace! 428 -
Unregistered - f234kk 360 11.08.2005 21:16 deleted and banned due to spamming 429 -
PS3 Sinking to it's graveUnregistered - MonkeyMan 11.08.2005 22:44 I have a ps2 and an xbox and the xbox live is tons better just because you are connected to all the Games and all the players!!!! for Ps2, half of the games don't work online, and the ones that do work, suck, it just makes me mad because i was planning to get a ps3 and now that they aren't making "PS3 live" i am going to have to reconsider. 430 -
Vivicious 11.09.2005 09:39 Haha, you're the only one labeling anything buddy, but just keep on dreaming. I asked you to quote me where I state what you keep saying, obviously you can't. Give up. "PlayStation 3 won’t play used games? Posted Nov 8, 2005, 4:45 PM ET by James Ransom-Wiley Related entries: Culture, PlayStation 3 The latest rumor, generated from several patent sites, claims that Sony has secured a patent for a disk technology that prevents the use of used, as well as pirated, software. From the registered patent description: ”A device and method for protection of legitimate software against used software and counterfeit software in recording media… A specific title code is read, and if this title code has been registered, the main unit shifts to a normal operation. If the code has not been registered, verification software is initiated… If matching does not occur, the disk is processed as illegitimate software… Since only titles for which legitimate software has actually been purchased and which have been initially registered in the machine table can be used, resale (so-called used software purchase) after purchase by an end-user becomes practically impossible.” Does Sony plan to employ this technology in the PlayStation 3? Not likely. If so, PS3 owners would not be able to rent (used) games or borrow their friends’ games—or even purchase used games! Sure, the technology could be used for Blu-Ray movies, but for games? It just won’t go down like that… right?" Source: Joystiq Now I doubt this is for the PS3 of course, nobody's that stupid. But I am afraid it will be used with cd's, they've already implemented that horrible DRM protection, and though I have a high regard for their gaming branch, their copy protection has always been screwing us over. =( Ignore the fanboys that read anything out of this, I'm just more interested in Sony in general when it comes to this news, we all (at least people that have done a little research into it) know companies like Sony and Apple have some pretty scary copy protection, but this seems to be getting out of hand. 431 -
xbox 360Unregistered - Dragonman13 11.09.2005 17:19 I think that the xbox 360 is better for some resoans like the graphics are running 3.2 ghzs each which is gigahertz the graphics running on it are awsome call of duty 2 on it rocks burnout revenge is comeing out for it in april you get 1 year free to xbox live when you buy the xbox 360 i am getting 14 xbox 360"s my self this is my first post so i dont know how good i do 432 -
xbox 360 world wide releaseUnregistered - dragonman13 11.09.2005 17:21 sony put back the release date because the xbox 360 and ps3 were going to be released the same day but that would of been total chaos LOL.... that is my last post today 433 -
xbox 360 VS ps3Unregistered - dragonman13 11.09.2005 17:23 xbox360 will overrule the ps3 for sure 434 -
Unregistered - silentscope 11.09.2005 17:36 ha ha ha, more trouble for sony and their puny little fanboys i laugh in all of the fanboys faces HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA 435 -
Vivicious post #352 you idiot.Bill Gates 11.09.2005 18:32 "Xbox was more for the hardcore gamer, but you're making it sound like that's too much of a compliment to them. Of course it's for the hardcore gamer, the regular crowd knew next to nothing about it," "Of course it's for the hardcore gamer, the regular crowd knew next to nothing about it, and the people that had the money..well why not? Better graphics at times, and some exclusive titles" "Xbox was only unlucky to be mainly for the hardcore crowd." Just realize how focking dumb and ignorant you sound when you label a system being mainly for hardcore gamers. Why do you say this because it was a better system? You idiot. I rest my case quit labeling things like you're some sort of internet/video game guru. You sound like a focking idiot. From now on i'm labeling you a hardcore douche bag. 436 -
Vivicious 11.10.2005 05:27 LOL! You're just digging yourself in deeper and deeper. I don't mind though, I guess it's kind of sadistic, but I really enjoy making people like you look more idiotic then they already pass themselves off to be. And you've just reached another low. First you post this: "What that fock "IS" a hardcore gamer? Dumb @sses. There is no such freaking thing you idiots" Then: "You actually mean to tell me that you go around telling people that you're a "hardcore gamer" I ask you to post something backing that up, and you use stuff from this post: "Xbox was more for the hardcore gamer, but you're making it sound like that's too much of a compliment to them. Of course it's for the hardcore gamer, the regular crowd knew next to nothing about it" Hahahaha, notice how stupid you look already? Why don't you figure out what these things mean before starting some useless argument you can never win. You just turned on a dime, imagine using quotes of mine that actually prove my point! Man, I swear you must be one stupid kid. "i've probably been gaming longer than you you Moron. Calling me a little kid,...when you're the one labeling systems and people as causal or hardcore, you douche." Yet again using lingo he has no idea that even exsisted a few days before, thinking that MS made it up. And stop acting like you're not some little adolescent punk, no selfrespecting human being would act like you, unless they've just hit puberty. "Just realize how focking dumb and ignorant you sound when you label a system being mainly for hardcore gamers." Just realise how dumb and ignorant you sound when you're contradicting the obvious (Of course it was for hardcore gamers, all the parents, little kids and the like hardly even knew about it. Why am I explaining this though? You don't even know what the difference is between hardcore and casual gamers.). "idiot. I rest my case quit labeling things like you're some sort of internet/video game guru." You think I thought all this up? I guess I should see that as a compliment, as I'm absolutely right, but I can't take the credit. Not only is it obvious for all to see that Sony is known so much more in the mainstream crowd (Ask people that don't know a thing about gaming, first thing they say is Playstation), and the original Xbox enjoyed alot smaller percentage of the casual gamers. But you could have seen dozen articles and even a BBC documentary to back this up. I really love the part where you quoted me proving my point though, thanks for that. Really made my day, how stupid can you be? At least make up some stuff about me again so you don't look like a complete fool. Quick, better start piling a whole bullshit story on me again about how stupid I am, that I misinterpreted you suddenly or maybe take a setence out of this post and concentrate wholy on that while ignoring the rest? Enjoy. 437 -
Vivicious 11.10.2005 05:30 And the great thing is: You've still never shown anything that says I claim that I am a hardcore gamer. Still waiting for that. Or are you going to jump to one of those idiotic conclusions of yours and think anyone that owns an Xbox is immediatly a hardcore gamer? I've never even stated I own one, but you can go right ahead if you want to. 438 -
VivBill Gates 11.10.2005 11:23 It was never my intention to prove that you called yourself a hardcore gamer you idiot. You did label a system as being aimed “more” towards the hard core gamer. You’re a complete fool for doing this. What was the Dreamcast, The Turbo Graphics 16, Sega Genesis, Super NES? Who were these systems aimed at? The answer is,…at gamers. You Moron. Know the ignorance in your comment. I never said Microsoft made up the term hardcore gamer. What I said was, that they began using the term allot more to attract fools (maybe like yourself) that don’t know any better into thinking that if you love playing games more than the “casual” gamer, than their system was the “hardcore” system to own. It’s called marketing you idiot, just like the word “extreme”. I’ll be honest with you, I own all the systems, and have been playing video games for a long time because I enjoy them. I would never label a certain system as being more for the hardcore gamer than the other, like you have done. That just shows how you really don’t know anything about being a gamer. My impression of you was that maybe you would have been of age to know this sort of stuff, but I guess you still have a lot to learn. And my impression of Microsoft is that they have succeeded in brainwashing allot of stupid American gamers into believing that their systems are for people like myself (Not American by the way), or how they would refer to me “the hardcore gamers”. That’s all bull. This, my friend, is just my opinion. 439 -
NOW A XBOX FAN!!!!Unregistered - ONCE A SONY FAN.... 11.10.2005 22:17 SONY=PS3=PONY=FONY=LIES XBOX360>PS3 JUST DEAL WITH IT =) 440 -
Unregistered - d 11.11.2005 10:20 d 441 -
Unregistered - Wolf 11.11.2005 10:23 I can not see why Sony have not deciede to use a service simmilar to the Xbox Live service. With a revamped online mode, many traitors that used to like Sony but have defected to MS will have to crawl back. 442 -
Vivicious 11.11.2005 11:21 *Sigh* This is getting really tiring by now. Not only are you still talking about things you've admitted knowing nothing about (See last post), you're even giving crappy examples. All the consoles you're talking about had huge name recognition, all the parent's knew their kids would like a Nintendo or Sega in their living room. The only exception could be the Dreamcast, this console failed due to several reasons (one would be the lack of support from important publishers) while it's well known that alot of amazing games were released for it. They had a limited marketing budget however and so they went under...Another reason this might have happened is quite obvious. Only part of the HARDCORE GAMING crowd got their hands on one of these consoles, to be able to play the games and the like. For somebody who likes calling other people idiotic, you sure are pretty ignorant yourself. Yet you persist, and like I said in my last post: "Quick, better start piling a whole bullshit story on me again about how stupid I am, that I misinterpreted you" And what do you do? "It was never my intention to prove that you called yourself a hardcore gamer you idiot." That's because you can't moron. Yet you've still said this: "You actually mean to tell me that you go around telling people that you're a "hardcore gamer"? " What's the next thing you state after making that incredibly stupid comment on consoles? "I never said Microsoft made up the term hardcore gamer." Wait a second...then what's this? "What that fock "IS" a hardcore gamer? Dumb @sses. There is no such freaking thing you idiots. I, Bill Gates, made it up to make all of you xbots join my party u fools." "There is no such thing as a Hardore gamer. That's all bull crap that Microsoft created for marketing." Also, to my knowledge MS did not label the Xbox the "hardcore" system, and if they did, that's not where the opinion of it came from. Every gaming analyst or rational and neutral gamer will know this as a fact, it has nothing to do with marketing whatsoever. Hahaha, I love this too: "be honest with you, I own all the systems, and have been playing video games for a long time because I enjoy them. I would never label a certain system as being more for the hardcore gamer than the other, like you have done." No, you wouldn't. You'd just put down an entire gaming system and act like a total fanboy d1ck just because a certain company produces it. Way to go acting all high and mighty dumb ass, don't bring me down to your level. And like I said before, it's completely obvious you're some pre-pubescent kid, or at least someone that acts like it (Look at all your previous posts for God's sake)and you just keep digging yourself in deeper and deeper. The fact is I've explained certain things several times now, and all you do is start on something else to try to somehow be right or something, as if that's so important to you. Jeez, don't just listen to me though, how about the other people that tried to teach you something about what a certain word means? That's not going to happen of course, since you're too stubborn. Well guess what, you can go and react to this and make yourself feel like you're not ignorant of the subject. And I'll just leave you to it. I'm done with you, people like you will never learn anyway. This thread is long dead, and I'm tired of reading to you trying to make a point that doesn't exsist. 443 -
Bill Gates 11.11.2005 12:56 I'm done with you kid. You're an idiot. 444 -
THIS IS A LIE!!!!!!!!Unregistered - Christian 11.12.2005 14:02 Sony is to announce its online capabilities near the launch of XBOX360. They have been workingon the online service since XBOX live became popular. 445 -
TO SPARTON OF 777Unregistered - MEGAXGOHAN@AOL.COM 11.12.2005 15:18 U STUPID (B)WITCH UR THE SAME ONE ON XBOX360 SAYIN UR CANCELING UR PREORDER FOR THE 360 AND GETTING A PS3. BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN UR SAYING THAT SONY FANBOYS ARE MAKING IT LOOK LIKE PEOPLE ARE CANCELING THE 360. U YOUR SELF SAID THAT U WERE CANCELING UR PREORDER. IF ANYBODY NEEDS PROOF HE SAID THAT GO ON XBOX360 NEWS.COM LOOK FOR ARTICLE COMMENTS. 446 -
It's OFFICIAL! NO LIE!Unregistered - WildAttorney 11.14.2005 01:15 Sony has officially announced it: NO ONLINE SERVICE FOR PS3. http://www.ctennis.com/content/view/75/36/ 447 -
Unregistered - ps3 sucks 11.15.2005 20:43 this is one of the many g4y reasons im not getting a Peice of Sh*t 3. Wanna argue? i/m me KicKFliP5869 448 -
xbox 360Unregistered - luiz 11.15.2005 21:39 what r u guys talking about theres no good games for xbox 360. over 200 games r coming out on xbox 360 by the end of 2006. and they got xbox live with web cams. all the games that r coming out for xbox 360 is live enable. 449 -
Unregistered - inya ass 11.16.2005 17:24 THATS IT XSOX 360 thinks Their the best 450 -
how could they?Unregistered - Ben the game ruler 11.18.2005 14:54 I don't believe those idiots at sony. Playstation world was going to be one of the best features. This will give the xbox 360 another advantage. 451 -
XBOX 360 IS BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!Unregistered - Oblivion 11.21.2005 15:09 face it people.Xbox 360 is better.ps3 did look better 4 a while but sony never keep their promises.These are the reasons why xbox360 is better(a)Xbox 360 has better games.(b)xbox live(c)no matter what sony(the liars) say graphics will be around the same as ps3.(d)Xbox 360 is easier to develop for according to many inculding the creators of doom.i used to love the playstation but then i got an xbox.ps3 will b great but xbox 360 will be better.enjoy ur crappy controllers. 452 -
xbox live sucksUnregistered - andy ( I'm back ) 11.23.2005 18:21 So what if sony is keeping the same online service that they had for the ps2. So what if the xbox live will continue on the xbox 360, big deal. I play multiplayer games with friends, not on so glorified crappy online service. Anyway its not online services that get people to buy their consoles its the quality of the games that get them to buy their consoles. So I stick my middle finger up at all you xbox idiots who have to go online because you have no mates, long live the PS#3. P.S I've said it once, I've said it twice, I've even said it 3 times and I'll say it again XBOX LIVE SUCKS. BILL GATES IS WANKER and J.ALLARD SUCKS. 453 -
Why????!Unregistered - MGS_fanatico_ 11.23.2005 21:42 I really can't belive this...This wouldn't have been a surprise for me, if it was a nintendo announcement, but coming from Sony, I really don't get it. I mean sure I will buy the PS3, I haven't changed my thoughts about that. But I still kind of wished that the PS3, considering what reputation it has, that it's online functions whould be kicking ass, and with ass I mean the X360's ass. 454 -
HiUnregistered - Lo 11.25.2005 12:49 I Love Monkeys 455 -
HiUnregistered - Lo 11.25.2005 12:49 I Love Monkeys 456 -
Bottom LineUnregistered - Matt 11.27.2005 19:03 The bottom line is if the ps3 doesnt have online gaming thats at least as good as the 360's then xbox is going to take over sony; Please re-think the mistake you are making Add Comment |
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